Kyyle23 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I found this on the Sports Illustrated truth and rumors page. The Tribune is reported as the source, but I cant find where this was printed: Wouldn't it be nice if Sox Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf opened his wallet to sign free-agent-to-be Paul Konerko? It would have been done by now if Konerko played for the Cubs, but Reinsdorf's ownership group doesn't have the resources of Tribune Co., and just about everybody in the Sox's clubhouse understands that. It would have been done by now if Konerko played for the Cubs? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Didnt the Cubs wait all off-season and part of Spring Training to re-sign Aramis Ramirez? How about all the smoke and mirrors in the Sammy Sosa contract negotiations? Reinsdorf hasnt endeared himself to everyone throughout his tenure, but claims like this are just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Nor should they resign Konerko yet. I like the guy and all, but I just think the team needs to go in another direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ May 23, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) I found this on the Sports Illustrated truth and rumors page. The Tribune is reported as the source, but I cant find where this was printed: It would have been done by now if Konerko played for the Cubs? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Didnt the Cubs wait all off-season and part of Spring Training to re-sign Aramis Ramirez? How about all the smoke and mirrors in the Sammy Sosa contract negotiations? Reinsdorf hasnt endeared himself to everyone throughout his tenure, but claims like this are just stupid. we should re-sign him now if he can add a "slump clause" to his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I agree, I think we should go another direction. I am not sure he is worth what we will be paying him, based on the market trends. There will be some serious players that will be available at the deadline as well as in the offseason. I think we wait it out and see if he will sign at a discount, or explore other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Who would be out there for us to replace him with though. I'm all for replacing him as I think he has way too many slumps for a guy who's supposed to be a offensive leader in the middle of our lineup. Let's trade him for Pujols and Mulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 wait to see if his numbers even out, and then how much money he wants. maybe he's a really slow starter, or maybe it's just 2 bad starts. on a related note, am I the only one that noticed the shameless plug by the Tribune writer? maybe the fact that the Sox get no love from Chicagoans and the Cubs do is because of the obvious media bias (the newspaper owns the Cubs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ May 23, 2005 -> 06:11 PM) on a related note, am I the only one that noticed the shameless plug by the Tribune writer? maybe the fact that the Sox get no love from Chicagoans and the Cubs do is because of the obvious media bias (the newspaper owns the Cubs). Actually Scott, that was my beef with the article, not whether Konerko should be re-signed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Are there any decent 1B replacement options in FA this year? Does someone have a list of guys? I agree that we shouldn't pay Konerko a ton of money, but I also don't want to see Ross Gload or some other in-house schmuck replacing him (unless Fields develops faster than expected). It looks like it would be pretty tough to get one in a trade: the only ones that come to mind are Overbay and Huff, who will cost a ton, and hot prospects like Adrian Gonzalez and Ryan Howard that are much less of a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ May 23, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) Are there any decent 1B replacement options in FA this year? Does someone have a list of guys? I agree that we shouldn't pay Konerko a ton of money, but I also don't want to see Ross Gload or some other in-house schmuck replacing him (unless Fields develops faster than expected). It looks like it would be pretty tough to get one in a trade: the only ones that come to mind are Overbay and Huff, who will cost a ton, and hot prospects like Adrian Gonzalez and Ryan Howard that are much less of a sure thing. Paul is probably the best FA out there. The rest are even bigger scrubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:06 PM) Are there any decent 1B replacement options in FA this year? Does someone have a list of guys? I agree that we shouldn't pay Konerko a ton of money, but I also don't want to see Ross Gload or some other in-house schmuck replacing him (unless Fields develops faster than expected). It looks like it would be pretty tough to get one in a trade: the only ones that come to mind are Overbay and Huff, who will cost a ton, and hot prospects like Adrian Gonzalez and Ryan Howard that are much less of a sure thing. Fred McGriff (Agent Jim Krivacs) David Segui Ellis Burks (Retired) Edgar Martinez(Retired) Brad Fullmer Robin Ventura(Retired) Mo Vaughn Andres Galaragga (Retired) Phil Hiatt Dave McCarty Rafael Palmeiro Frank Thomas (Player + Team option) J.T. Snow John Olerud Dave Hansen Julio Franco Tim Salmon Doug Mientkiewicz (Vesting Option) (arb.) Kevin Millar Paul Konerko Dimitri Young (Team Option) Scott Hatteberg (Team Option) Eduardo Perez Wil Cordero Robert Fick Greg Colbrunn Mark Sweeney Tino Martinez (Team Option) Ruben Sierra Tony Clark Travis Lee Erubiel Durazo Brian Buchanan Durazo>konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I would think about JT Snow, Millar and Durazo. Durazo would be third on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 24, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) I would think about JT Snow, Millar and Durazo. Durazo would be third on my list. Durazo would be number one by a large margain if he could play first base. Then it would be millar and snow. I like millar because he is pretty versatile which is always nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 To answer the title of this thread, I truly hope not. Konerko is the definition of a one-dimensional player. He can hit homeruns, period. Some team will pay him much more than we will because of that. He's not even worth the $8 million he's getting this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2005 -> 12:11 AM) To answer the title of this thread, I truly hope not. Konerko is the definition of a one-dimensional player. He can hit homeruns, period. Some team will pay him much more than we will because of that. He's not even worth the $8 million he's getting this year. Even better, 8.75 million this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ May 24, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) Durazo would be number one by a large margain if he could play first base. Then it would be millar and snow. I like millar because he is pretty versatile which is always nice. Millar's versatile? He's just as slow as Konerko, but with much less pop in his bat. I've seen him play for two years now. Of course, he's a "team leader," too. He's a poor man's Pauly. He's definitely last on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) Millar's versatile? He's just as slow as Konerko, but with much less pop in his bat. I've seen him play for two years now. Of course, he's a "team leader," too. He's a poor man's Pauly. He's definitely last on my list. Yes, more versatile. He can play left and first while konerko can just play first. That seems like two to one to me. Also, he is not slower than konerko. He hits for a higher average along with a higher ops ( career wise). Millar's career ops is 121 while konerko's is only 111. Millar we also be significantly cheaper than konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ May 23, 2005 -> 11:18 PM) Yes, more versatile. He can play left and first while konerko can just play first. That seems like two to one to me. Also, he is not slower than konerko. He hits for a higher average along with a higher ops ( career wise). Millar's career ops is 121 while konerko's is only 111. Millar we also be significantly cheaper than konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ May 24, 2005 -> 01:18 AM) Yes, more versatile. He can play left and first while konerko can just play first. That seems like two to one to me. Also, he is not slower than konerko. He hits for a higher average along with a higher ops ( career wise). Millar's career ops is 121 while konerko's is only 111. Millar we also be significantly cheaper than konerko. He's making $3.5 million this year, so he'll be getting around 5 million next year. I think we can do better with that money. He really is slow. True, not Konerko slow, but who really is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2005 -> 12:22 AM) He's making $3.5 million this year, so he'll be getting around 5 million next year. I think we can do better with that money. He really is slow. True, not Konerko slow, but who really is? Five million is no guarantee if he keeps up his .680 opsgive or take .50-.70 points. If he puts up numbers closer to his career average he will get that without a doubt. We has one person on thsi team that is just as slow if not slower than konerko and that would be pierz, another would be david ortiz. There are some more but not too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 With that pathetic free agent class, there is no doubt that Konerko is gone. Plus add to that the fact that Konerko hasn't been extended yet, and the writing is one the wall. My theory, look for one of the starting pitchers to be dealt for a first baseman and some depth in the off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2005 -> 07:16 AM) With that pathetic free agent class, there is no doubt that Konerko is gone. Plus add to that the fact that Konerko hasn't been extended yet, and the writing is one the wall. My theory, look for one of the starting pitchers to be dealt for a first baseman and some depth in the off-season. I think this will be looked at by the Sox as a choice between PK and Frank. It's gonna be Frank, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2005 -> 08:16 AM) My theory, look for one of the starting pitchers to be dealt for a first baseman and some depth in the off-season. Do you have any ideas on who that 1B might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 24, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) Do you have any ideas on who that 1B might be? Herbert Perry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 24, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Herbert Perry? Herb was a 3B. I'm appalled that you didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 My problem is not the numbers or the money. As much as I cringe sometimes when Konerko is up, he is the face of the Sox and a fan favorite. I feel he has been a pretty good soldier during his tenure here and the Sox should sign him. Again, I don't know what kind of money we are looking at, but the chants of "Paulie, Paulie" this weekend at Wrigley, tell me that the fans love this guy and the organization should respect that as well. That being said, with 1 out and a man on first, I would make a fortune if I bet on "Double Play" when Konerko is up in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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