NBA Draft Lottery

[hammerhead johnson]

There are numerous important facets to making a successful team, defense is only one of them, just like scoring. Just like you need to be able to protect the paint and pressure the ballhandler, a good team will have someone that can score consistently inside and someone that can hit the open shot, and having guys that can create their own shot help greatly in that area. You also need to handle the ball, find the open man, rebound on offense and defense, and be able to get a stop or a score in the clutch. I'd much rather take a guy that can help me in 4 or 5 of these areas than 2 or 3. I know you have a bit of a hard on for the defensive specialists, but there are many other facets to the game. Ben Wallace and Taysaun Prince are nice players, but Detroit wouldn't be there without guys that can create their shots like Hamilton and Billups, and vice versa. The really good teams can do it all. You take you stoppers and see what happens if you can't find a scorer, I'll take the scorer and try some role players to provide the D. It's a little easier to start over if it doesn't work my way than the other way around.

 

Philosophical differences is all.

 

As far as I can tell, superior defenders are hard to come by, and guys who have the potential to score are everywhere. You don't agree? That's fine. Those guys that excel on both ends of the court? In a 30 team league, those types of players are very, very hard to come by.

 

In my world, you add a Ray Allen, you add a Michael Redd. Do a study on the Milwaukee Bucks or Golden State Warriors. Actually, do what I do...take the time to analyze how every team builds, or has built since like 1987 (within a reasonable time frame, whatever we have witnessed throughout the course of our lives). Teams that build with offense in mind first and foremost don't work out in the vast majority of cases.

 

Now, to get on to a whole nother discussion...I support a defensive brand of offense. I want the high percentage shot in the paint or the wide open shot on the perimiter every time. I want superior ball control. I'm not into PGs, combo guards, or scoring SFs who play street ball, like Allen Iverson, Steve Francis, Ben Gordon, Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Antoine Walker, Big Dog Robinson, etc. As you can see, teams actually try to build around these guys, although I won't presume that you'd do the same.

 

Great defenders are usually very smart players, naturally. They can do all the little things well, which is what you're referring to when you bring up ball control, timely passing, hitting the open man, etc. Most are unselfish, and their contributions to team chemistry are immeasurable.

 

In the end, you value offense when I think it's easy to come by, and I value defense which you think is not that hard to come by. We see the NBA from different ends of the spectrum. I am as conservative as they come, you are clearly liberal, although not to an extreme.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Philosophical differences is all.

 

As far as I can tell, superior defenders are hard to come by, and guys who have the potential to score are everywhere.  You don't agree?  That's fine.  Those guys that excel on both ends of the court?  In a 30 team league, those types of players are very, very hard to come by.

 

In my world, you add a Ray Allen, you add a Michael Redd.  Do a study on the Milwaukee Bucks or Golden State Warriors.  Actually, do what I do...take the time to analyze how every team builds, or has built since like 1987 (within a reasonable time frame, whatever we have witnessed throughout the course of our lives).  Teams that build with offense in mind first and foremost don't work out in the vast majority of cases.

 

Now, to get on to a whole nother discussion...I support a defensive brand of offense.  I want the high percentage shot in the paint or the wide open shot on the perimiter every time.  I want superior ball control.  I'm not into PGs, combo guards, or scoring SFs who play street ball, like Allen Iverson, Steve Francis, Ben Gordon, Stephon Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Antoine Walker, Big Dog Robinson, etc.  As you can see, teams actually try to build around these guys, although I won't presume that you'd do the same. 

 

Great defenders are usually very smart players, naturally.  They can do all the little things well, which is what you're referring to when you bring up ball control, timely passing, hitting the open man, etc.  Most are unselfish, and their contributions to team chemistry are immeasurable.

 

In the end, you value offense when I think it's easy to come by, and I value defense which you think is not that hard to come by.  We see the NBA from different ends of the spectrum.  I am as conservative as they come, you are clearly liberal, although not to an extreme.

 

 

This s*** is classic...

[nitetrain8601]

I would say offense is underrated in basketball, but it ultimately leads to a balance of both. My theory is, defense keeps you close, offense will win you the game.

[WHarris1]

I would say offense is underrated in basketball, but it ultimately leads to a balance of both. My theory is, defense keeps you close, offense will win you the game.

Interesting.

I could very easily say, offense keeps you close, defense will win you the game.

 

Just a difference in opinion, no one in here is wrong.

[hammerhead johnson]

         

 

This s*** is classic...

 

Haha, yeah.

 

*cough cough* stalker *cough cough*

 

There I was looking out my bedroom window, and some dork with a Depaul cap and a psychology report was spying on me on some George McFly type s***.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Interesting.

I could very easily say, offense keeps you close, defense will win you the game.

 

Just a difference in opinion, no one in here is wrong.

 

Yeah, it's all a matter of opinion...

 

Let me just throw out a scenario for the sake of discussion:

 

Is there a defender that you are supremely confident that could shut down Jordan on, say, a game-winning shot guranteed?

 

I would put my money on Jordan. It's impossible to say that he'd hit that shot every single time (he obviously did not hit every game-winner that he took in his career), but I still think that Jordan's offensive skills trumps any sort of defense that you throw out at him. In my humble opinion, he was just that good...

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Haha, yeah. 

 

*cough cough* stalker *cough cough*

 

There I was looking out my bedroom window, and some dork with a Depaul cap and a psychology report was spying on me on some George McFly type s***.  

 

:headshake

Edited May 31, 2005 by SleepyWhiteSox

[qwerty]

The Nuggets worked out two foreign power forwards hoping to become second-round draft picks: Marko Lekic of Serbia and Montenegro and graduating Fairfield senior Deng Gai of Sudan. Gai is a cousin of Chicago forward Luol Deng.

 

Gai said he hopes to use a pro career to aid his country, which is in the middle of a civil war.

 

"I want to do something positive to help my people," he said. ...

 

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_2776918

 

He is a bigger version of loul and is an athletic freak. His main position is power foward and he led the nation in blocks and can get up and down the court with the best of them ( at his position)

 

Stats.

 

You have to realize his point totals are low because he was always getting double teamed every night if not triple teamed.

Edited June 4, 2005 by qwerty

[SoxFan1]

Over/Under on Serbians drafted: 3...

[DBAHO]

More draft buzz;

 

Antoine Wright has made the most noise of late, shooting up the draft board after a number of big workouts. Scouts feel he has gone from a late lotto pick to a mid lottery pick in course of the past week.

 

Wright had a very strong junior season and was projected by most scouts as a mid-first rounder after the season ended.

 

But with his impressive workouts, and a weak field in the mid-lottery area, Wright has become a virtual lock for a top 10 pick, possibly to Charlotte at 5, Toronto at 7 or New York at 8.

 

Having recently signed an agent (Billy Ceisler), Wright is in the draft for good and is considered the top shooting guard prospect for the draft by NBADraft.net (Gerald Green is considered a SF).

 

NBADraft.net has long rated Wright as a top 5 player in his class, and while others considered him a second rounder early in the college basketball season, NBADraft.net stuck with him, and has always projected him as a first rounder.

 

Wright struggled in his sophomore season with his shooting percentage and turnovers. But with a better coach and point guard on board, he played sensationally all year, and nearly led an upset of Kansas in their arena.

 

The Phoenix Suns were knocked out of the playoffs Wednesday, and now look to the future with the draft less than a month away.

 

NBADraft.net received word Friday that the Suns may have a promise in place to take Arizona St. power forward Ike Diogu. Diogu reportedly measured a legit 6-7 and change in a workout, and a reported 7-3.5 wingspan, meaning he is a big 6-8. So his size is not far off from a player some have likened him to: Elton Brand.

 

Diogu doesn't exactly fit into the Suns up tempo style, but after their quick 5 game boot from the playoffs at the hands of San Antonio, coach Mike D' Antoni was heard saying they needed to add toughness to compete with them next year.

 

With their star shooting guard Joe Johnson a free agent, the team is doing everything they can to trim their payroll in an effort to keep him. There has been some speculation that the team would go with a European player that they could leave over in Europe. This remains a possibility if Diogu is gone when they pick, or if the rumor turns out to be false.

 

Phoenix also loves high schooler Monta Ellis, and is was said to be hoping he will slip to them at 21, but they may figure he'll be gone by the time they pick.

 

According to sources, Ellis had a favorable match up with Jarrett Jack in their workout in Minnesota. Ellis is considered a likely top 20 pick with a legit chance to quick-first-step his way into the late lottery. Minnesota has been searching for a talented young point guard to pair with KG for years, and could make a pick for the future with Ellis.

 

After a lackluster season in which he showed flashes of immense potential, but a lack of desire and passion, Chris Taft has been the subject of a lot of media scrutiny. However his workouts have not been as bad as some will have you believe.

 

On Thursday Taft worked out for the Clippers against Sean May and outdualed the Final Four tournament MVP. In a 2 on 2 game with Elder and Ewing, Taft outplayed May in all facets of the game.

 

Despite being the most talented player on the team, Taft had a hard time getting opportunities to prove himself at Pitt. Senior Chevon Troutman was a lot more assertive shooting the ball, and ate into Taft's numbers considerably.

 

Also, taking away from Taft's effectiveness was a point guard (Carl Krauser) with a shoot first mentality. Taft averaged just over 9 shots a game, scoring more than 14 points a game, meaning he had great ratio of more than 1 1/2 points per shot.

 

Taft has slid some from his early projection as a top 5-10 pick, (as high as the #1 pick in early season) but with as much upside as any bigman in the draft, Taft has become a huge sleeper. And while some Pitt fans will say he slept all season, even while games were going on, it could be teams caught sleeping in the draft.

 

Look for him to end up somewhere in the 10-18 range when draft night rolls around.

 

Despite a very strong effort Thursday against Fran Vazquez in a Spanish league (series) game between their teams, Splitter will likely end up waiting another season to enter the draft. He's a player with very good upside, however the buyout situation with him is very difficult, meaning that a team in the 6-12 range would have to wait a year for him. Therefore the odds of him coming over next season are low.

 

He remains in the same boat with Nemanja Aleksandrov, Ersan Ilyasova, Martynas Andriuskevicius looking for a promise that probably wont come.

Andrew Bynum, the elite UConn recruit who was impressive in the Jordan Classic will workout for teams on Saturday at Baruch College in New York City. The general thought on him is that he is somewhere in the late first round with a chance to move up with a great showing in the workout.

 

His long term potential would be best served however, with a few years at UConn. He has the potential to be a top 5-10 center in the NBA someday, but the chances of that happening are far greater if he played a couple seasons under Jim Calhoun at UConn. NBADraft.net will have contacts at the workout and will give a report on how it affects his status for the draft.

 

Rashad McCants has had a couple workouts where he has gotten sick and had to stop. Workouts in Minnesota and Toronto had to be cut short due to McCants feeling ill. After missing time during the season due to a stomach ailment, this could be a troubling sign for the immensely talented shooting guard.

 

He was able to overcome the ailment which cost him a few weeks towards the end of the NCAA regular season, and was key in North Carolina's championship run.

 

McCants had a workout planned for Orlando Friday, no word yet on how it went, but we will keep tabs on the situation.

 

Word has leaked that Trailblazers management might actually prefer to trade down to get Martell Webster instead of Gerald Green. The original scenario had Portland moving down two spots taking Charlotte's pick and a future first rounder and then select Green at 5.

 

Portland continues to shop the third pick, with Chris Paul having the most value at the position. A number of teams are very interested, so it will be interesting to see if Portland wants to have contracts taken off their hands, or adds a player or pick(s) if a deal is made.

 

Another trade possibility is Toronto at 7, where Portland would let Green go to another team in front of them and select Webster. Regardless, Webster's stock is on the rise and there's a very good chance he will end up a top ten pick.

 

Marko Tomas' club KK Zagreb has reached a (verbal) agreement regarding Marko with European basketball powerhouse Real Madrid of Spain ACB. KK Zagreb will reportedly sell Marko Tomas's current contract for 1 milion euros, while Real Madrid is expected to offer Marko new, 3-year deal, after the expansion of current contract.

 

Real Madrid's coach Bozidar Maljkovic is planning to play Marko alongside Serbian guard Igor Rakocevic, formerly drafted in the second round by Minnesota.

 

In Tomas' final game with Zagreb, Marko scored 26pts and adding 12reb but the team lost to Cibona, 71-69 on a last second shot.

 

Tomas has declared for the draft, but this move signifies he will likely play in Europe at least another season. He'll also need a high pick in the draft to stay in, and because that's not likely look for him to pull out and wait for the 2006 draft.

 

Moving Up:

 

In a recent workout, Joey Graham reportedly benched 185 pounds - 25 times! He is obviously one of the true athletic specimens in the draft and has a body normally only seen in comic books. For a 22 year old small forward, it's an amazing feat.

 

Travis Deiner has been especially impressive in workouts, and while many were under the impression he was too much of a shooting guard trapped in a point guards body, that shooting touch has endeared him to a lot of teams. his point guard skills also seem to be of team's liking and he's now consdered a likely mid-second rounder.

 

Julius Hodge has done well working out for teams, and is now seen as a possible high second round pick. His body strength has improved since the season, and he has a very good feel for the game. Scouts however still feel that the first round is a stretch for him. They think he will wind up in the 35-45 range when all is said and done.

 

Moving Down:

 

John Gilchrist is slipping fast. Sources indicate Gilchrist has slid from a bubble first rounder to a likely mid to late second rounder recently. Gilchrist had a dismal season after an apparent feud with coach Gary Williams. He must perform well in workouts and personality tests with teams in order to reverse the spiral.

 

Salim Stoudamire, once thought to be a legit first round possibility measured at under '6 foot at a workout recently. While he remains one of the top shooters on the planet and has maybe the quickest release known to man, he will likely fall to the mid second round in the draft.

 

Defensive standout shooting guard Eddie Basden has struggled in workouts due to a lack of an outside shot.

[qwerty]

Deron...

 

Williams dropped 15 pounds since the close of the season. He recently checked in at 6-2½ and 199 pounds, only 7½ percent of which was body fat.

I definitely feel the difference," Williams said. "I feel a lot quicker."

 

For 2½ weeks, Williams took part in a strict diet that excluded bread, meat and dairy products. Now that fried and fast foods are things of the past, he has become a steak-and-potatoes guy.

 

"I got a lot of favorites that I gave up — a lot of favorites," Williams said. "But it's not that bad once you get used to it. I thought it would be a lot harder than it really was."

Edited June 13, 2005 by qwerty

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Deron...

 

Which illini players were you saying that were going to be better pros than deron? I vaguely remember you saying head, dee, and/or augustine...

[Palehosefan]

Measurements.

Name Height Height (w/ shoes) Weight (lbs) Wingspan Reach

 

Acker, Alex 6' 3¾" 6' 4¾" 183.0 7' 0" 8' 6½"

 

Akindele, Deji 6' 9½" 6' 11" 236.4 7' 3" 9' 0½"

 

Aleksandrov, Nemanja 6' 10" 7' 0" 220.6 6' 11" 9' 2"

 

Al-Sayyad, Mustafa 6' 7½" 6' 9" 229.2 7' 4¾" 9' 2"

 

Anderson, Alan 6' 4½" 6' 6" 223.2 6' 9½" 8' 8"

 

Andriuskevicius, Martynas 7' 1¼" 7' 3" 227.8 6' 11¼" 9' 4½"

 

Banks, Sean 6' 5¾" 6' 7" 206.4 7' 1" 9' 0"

 

Basden, Eddie 6' 4¼" 6' 5½" 210.0 6' 10¼" 8' 5"

 

Bell, Mike 6' 8¾" 6' 9¼" 206.2 7' 1½" 8' 8½"

 

Bogut, Andrew 6' 11" 7' 0¼" 250.6 7' 3" 9' 2½"

 

Brown, Dee 5' 11" 6' 0" 179.0 6' 2" 7' 10"

 

Bynum, Will 5' 10½" 5' 11½" 188.8 6' 3½" 7' 9"

 

Campbell, Marcus 6' 10¼" 7' 0¼" 280.4 7' 6" 9' 6"

 

Conroy, Will 6' 1" 6' 2" 188.6 6' 3" 8' 0½"

 

Coppenrath, Taylor 6' 7¾" 6' 9¼" 252.4 6' 11½" 8' 10½"

 

Diener, Travis 5' 11¾" 6' 1" 165.2 5' 11¾" 7' 9½"

 

Diogu, Ike 6' 6½" 6' 8" 255.4 7' 3½" 9' 1"

 

Dorsey, Daryl 5' 11¼" 6' 0½" 160.8 5' 11½" 7' 10"

 

Ellis, Monta 6' 2¼" 6' 3¼" 176.6 6' 2¾" 8' 2"

 

Felton, Raymond 5' 11½" 6' 0¼" 199.4 6' 4¼" 8' 2"

 

Fernandez, Rudy 6' 4¾" 6' 6" 172.0 6' 7½" 8' 5½"

 

Fischer, D'Or 6' 9¼" 6' 10½" 242.4 7' 6" 9' 2½"

 

Fobbs, Eddy 6' 10¼" 6' 11¼" 235.2 7' 6¾" 9' 3½"

 

Ford, Sharrod 6' 7¼" 6' 8¼" 212.8 7' 1½" 8' 10"

 

Francis, Torin 6' 8¾" 6' 10" 251.8 7' 1" 9' 0½"

 

Frye, Channing 6' 9½" 6' 10½" 243.6 7' 2½" 9' 2½"

 

Gai, Deng 6' 7¾" 6' 9¼" 214.0 7' 4½" 9' 2½"

 

Garcia, Francisco 6' 5¾" 6' 7" 189.6 6' 10¾" 8' 7"

 

Gilchrist, John 6' 1¼" 6' 2½" 195.2 6' 9¼" 8' 0½"

 

Gortat, Marcin 6' 11" 7' 0" 225.2 7' 3½" 9' 2"

 

Graham, Joey 6' 5¼" 6' 6½" 216.6 6' 8" 8' 8"

 

Granger, Danny 6' 7½" 6' 8½" 225.4 7' 1½" 8' 7"

 

Green, Gerald 6' 6" 6' 7¼" 192.0 6' 9¾" 8' 8"

 

Hayes, Chuck 6' 5½" 6' 6¾" 232.4 6' 10" 8' 8½"

 

Head, Luther 6' 2" 6' 3" 178.8 6' 5¼" 8' 2½"

 

Hodge, Julius 6' 6" 6' 7" 202.2 7' 0½" 8' 11½"

 

Homan, Jared 6' 7¾" 6' 8¾" 248.2 7' 1¼" 8' 8½"

 

Ilyasova, Ersan 6' 7¾" 6' 9" 208.8 7' 1¼" 9' 1½"

 

Jack, Jarrett 6' 2½" 6' 3½" 197.6 6' 7½" 8' 4"

 

Jones, Dwyane 6' 8½" 6' 10" 242.2 7' 2¾" 9' 0½"

 

Katelynas, Mindaugas 6' 7½" 6' 8½" 217.0 6' 11" 8' 9½"

 

Klotz, Jason 6' 8½" 6' 9¾" 249.4 6' 10" 8' 11½"

 

Krauser, Carl 5' 11½" 6' 0¾" 193.4 6' 5½" 8' 2½"

 

Langford, Keith 6' 2¼" 6' 3½" 203.2 6' 9" 8' 5"

 

Lee, David 6' 7¾" 6' 9" 229½ 7' 0" 8' 10½"

 

Lucas, David 6' 6½" 6' 7¾" 233.4 7' 0" 8' 7½"

 

Lucas, John 5' 9¼" 5' 10½" 154.4 6' 0" 7' 8"

 

Manuel, Jackie 6'4¼" 6' 5½" 188.2 6' 11¼" 8' 7½"

 

Marshall, Rawle 6' 4½" 6' 5¾" 186.6 7' 1" 8' 8"

 

Maxiell, Jason 6' 5" 6' 6¼" 257.6 7' 3¼" 8' 11"

 

May, Sean 6' 7" 6' 8½" 258.8 7' 1¼" 8' 9"

 

McCants, Rashad 6' 2¾" 6' 4" 201.0 6' 10¾" 8' 7½"

 

McFarlin, Ivan 6' 5½" 6' 6¾" 228.6 6' 9" 8' 9½"

 

Mendez, Juan 6' 5¼" 6' 6¾" 231.4 7' 0" 8' 10½"

 

Mensah-Bonsu, Pops 6' 7¼" 6' 8¾" 226.6 7' 0" 8' 9"

 

Miles, Aaron 6' 0" 6' 1½" 174.6 6' 3½" 7' 10"

 

Myles, Ellis 6' 6" 6' 7¼" 255.2 6' 9¾" 8' 9½"

 

O'Bannon, Larry 6' 3" 6' 4¼" 196.0 6' 6" 8' 3½"

 

Pasalic, Drago 6' 9½" 6' 11" 238.8 6' 11¾" 9' 0½"

 

Paul, Chris 5' 11¾" 6' 1" 178.0 6' 4¼" 7' 9"

 

Pittsnogle, Kevin 6' 9¼" 6' 10¼" 259.2 6' 10½" 8' 10"

 

Powell, Carlos 6' 5¼" 6' 6¾" 221.8 6' 10¾" 8' 9"

 

Powell, Roger 6' 4¾" 6' 6" 218.6 6' 11½" 8' 8"

 

Price, Ronnie 6' 0¾" 6' 2¼" 184.8 6' 5½" 8' 0½"

 

Roberson, Anthony 6' 0¾" 6' 2½" 178.8 6' 2¾" 7' 11"

 

Rush, Brandon 6' 5" 6' 6½" 211.4 6' 11¼" 8' 8½"

 

Schenscher, Luke 6' 11¾" 7' 1½" 241.6 7' 5" 9' 3½"

 

Simien, Wayne 6' 7¼" 6' 9" 255.8 7' 0" 8' 11"

 

Simmons, Tre 6' 4" 6' 5" 194.2 6' 7½" 8' 6½"

 

Simon, David 6' 8" 6' 9½" 258.8 7' 3½" 9' 0"

 

Slaughter, Marcus 6' 6¾" 6' 8" 213.4 6' 11" 8' 8½"

 

Smith, Steven 6' 7¼" 6' 8¾" 235.6 7' 0" 8' 10"

 

Stoudamire, Salim 6' 0" 6' 1¼" 185.6 6' 4" 8' 0½"

 

Taft, Chris 6' 8½" 6' 9½" 261.0 7' 1¾" 9' 1"

 

Thomas, Chris 5' 11¾" 6' 1" 176.2 6' 3" 7' 11"

 

Thomas, Omar 6' 3¼" 6' 4½" 200.0 6' 8" 8' 6"

 

Thompson, Dijon 6' 6¼" 6' 8" 195.8 6' 9¾" 8' 9½"

 

Turiaf, Ronny 6' 8" 6' 9¼" 237.8 7' 1½" 8' 10½"

 

Villanueva, Charlie 6' 9" 6' 9½" 236.6 7' 0¼" 9' 1"

 

Warrick, Hakim 6' 7¼" 6' 8½" 215.0 7' 2" 9' 0"

 

Webster, Martell 6' 6" 6' 7½" 229.6 6' 11" 8' 10"

 

Whaley, Robert 6' 8" 6' 9" 269.4 7' 2" 9' 0"

 

Williams, Deron 6' 1¾" 6' 2¾" 202.4 6' 6¼" 8' 2"

 

Williams, Eric 6' 7" 6' 8½" 282.0 7' 4" 9' 0½"

 

Williams, Jawad 6' 7" 6' 8" 218.0 7' 1¼" 8' 10½"

 

Williams, Marvin 6' 7" 6' 8¼" 228.2 7' 3½" 9' 0"

 

Wright, Antoine 6' 5¼" 6' 6¼" 202.6 6' 8¾" 8' 8½"

 

Wright, Bracey 6' 1¼" 6' 2½" 186.8 6' 10" 8' 4½"

[qwerty]

A source has told Draft Daily the Bulls are very impressed with Travis Diener and if they make a trade, they will look very closely at taking Diener because of his shooting abilities. The Bulls are looking for more shooting that could come off the bench at the guard position and Diener might be the answer for them.

 

http://www.draftdaily.com/newsmanager/anmv...r.asp?a=381&z=8

[Buehrle>Wood]

Yet another undersized guard for the Bulls in the draft. Where does it stop?

[sayitaintso]

Haha, yeah. 

 

*cough cough* stalker *cough cough*

 

There I was looking out my bedroom window, and some dork with a Depaul cap and a psychology report was spying on me on some George McFly type s***.

Good movie

[sayitaintso]

Yet another undersized guard for the Bulls in the draft. Where does it stop?

Is there a record of white guys on a baseketball team since the shot clock was introduced. If there is a record, the Bulls seem like they are trying to break the record.

[DBAHO]

Fran Vazquez could slide all the way down to #15 if Utah don't pick him at #6. That's the steal of the draft right there, I'd hope Orlando would take him at #11, instead of Joey Graham who they've been wowed by.

[WHarris1]

Is there a record of white guys on a baseketball team since the shot clock was introduced. If there is a record, the Bulls seem like they are trying to break the record.

Ever heard of the Utah Jazz?

[WilliamTell]

Ever heard of the Utah Jazz?

 

 

8 of the 15 are white guys but many are from another country. Is that a bad thing that there is so many white guys on a team though? I guess I'd rather have talent than color of the skin.

[WHarris1]

8 of the 15 are white guys but many are from another country. Is that a bad thing that there is so many white guys on a team though? I guess I'd rather have talent than color of the skin.

That'd be correct, I was just making a point.

[sayitaintso]

8 of the 15 are white guys but many are from another country. Is that a bad thing that there is so many white guys on a team though? I guess I'd rather have talent than color of the skin.

I didn't mean it to sound racist, but i remeber the Bulls having 3 out the their 5 players out on the floor were white. It just looked funny to me.

[sayitaintso]

Ever heard of the Utah Jazz?

[WilliamTell]

It's cool guys. A lot of you know I like the Jazz so yeah.....

[Jordan4life_2007]

This question is for Greasywheels or any other Pacer's fan. What the hell is up with this rumored to happen Bender and the 17th pick to the Lakers for George, Slava and the 37th pick swap? I mean, I know Bender has been injury prone and hasn't really produced yet. But he's still only 23. And the Pacers could get at the very least a good role player with the 17th pick. George and Slava are bums. So you're basically trading a young talent and the 17th pick for the 37th pick. What gives?