What is your all- time sox team

[Yossarian]

Willie Kamm was a slick fielding 3bman for the Sox from 1923-1931. With Pie Traynor, he was among the elite defensively in the 20's. Years ago when they compiled these all team lists Kamm got a lot of mention, but now he is among the forgotten.

[Heads22]

3 words:

 

Chris f***ing Snopek.

[ZoomSlowik]

C- Ray Schalk (just to be contrarian, HOF catcher)

1B- Frank

2B- Eddie Collins

SS- Luke Appling

3B- Buck Weaver (kind of want to cheat and move Nellie over hear)

OF- Joe Jackson

OF- Minnie Minnoso

OF- Tim Raines

DH- Dick Allen

 

SP- Ed Walsh

SP- Ed Cicotte

SP- Billy Pierce

SP- Jack McDowell (not sure about the career numbers, but he has a Cy Young)

SP- Red Faber (HOF)

 

CL- Hoyt Wilhelm (an absolute beast in the pen)

[hammerhead johnson]

This positional chart is pure comedy:

 

White Sox 1901-2004

 

Take a look at all of the third basemen who have played for us. IMO, Ventura is a no-brainer over Melton, Weaver, Kamm, etc. Weaver was a decent hitter. He hit .272 over his career. Melton hit .253, and Kamm hit .281. They weren't extraordinary offensive players by any means. I doubt that any of the three were better defensively than Robin Ventura.

 

C- Carlton Fisk

1B- Frank Thomas

2B- Eddie Collins

SS- Luke Appling

3B- Robin Ventura

OF- Joe Jackson

OF- Harold Baines

OF- Magglio Ordonez

DH- Nellie Fox

 

Sorry, our outfielders suck historically. It's terrible. Check the positional chart.

 

Pitching:

 

1. Ed Walsh 195-126, 0.99 WHIP/2964 IP

2. Eddie Cicotte 208-149, 1.15 WHIP/3223 IP

3. Ted Lyons 260-230, 1.34 WHIP/4160 IP

4. Red Faber 254-213, 1.30 WHIP/4160 IP (no typo, same as Lyons)

5. Billy Pierce 211-169, 1.26 WHIP/3306 IP

 

Ed Walsh is one of the top 10 starters in the history of major league baseball. Look at that WHIP in innings pitched. He has a career 1.82 ERA, which is the best in history. He is our Christy Matthewson, our Sandy Koufax. Nobody even comes close in White Sox history.

 

Early Wynn came to the Sox when he was 38 years old, but he still went 65-57. But in my mind, just like Tom Seaver and Steve Carlton, he shouldn't qualify for Top 5 SPs in our history, despite the fact that he's in the HOF.

Edited June 1, 2005 by hammerhead johnson