DonkeyKongerko Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Now I'm not usually in to second guessing, but it looks really bad when your manager goes out to the mound and a go-ahead homerun is promptly served up. Ozzie appeared to be cursing more than normal in the dugout after that one. I only hope if he did call it, he will let A.J. call the pitches from now on. If A.J. called it, then he made a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valponick Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ May 27, 2005 -> 04:39 AM) Now I'm not usually in to second guessing, but it looks really bad when your manager goes out to the mound and a go-ahead homerun is promptly served up. Ozzie appeared to be cursing more than normal in the dugout after that one. I only hope if he did call it, he will let A.J. call the pitches from now on. If A.J. called it, then he made a mistake. I'm actually guessing the opposite, he probably told him not to throw him anything good to hit. Contreras must have interpreted that as throw him a fastball right over the heart of the plate. He should have been throwing nothing but junk to him, he had a base open and a righty on deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Idonno but Jack McDowell even said only throw your best pitch here dont give him anything to hit and than what does Contreras do... gives him a HR ball.... pisses me off the most when it has beene evident the whole series McPherson cant hit anything slow... he is a fastball hitter and we gave it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Pierzynski looked a little bit peaved after the inning was over, probably his call or the Count shook him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I'm not mad at our pitching.......its our offensive offense that f***ed us tonight as it usually does. God forbid Pods or Gooch goes down because without them this offense would never score another run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 I'd have to watch again to see if Count shook a sign off. I just got the impression that he was just thinking "Told ya" to whoever called it. And yeah, I'm not mad either. Not at Contreras. Lackey was very hittable tonight and we let him off the hook big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Yeah I don't like second guessing, and like Jack, I would have been mad if he pulled El Conde right there... But after Ozzie walked I said becareful this guy'll swing at anything... Don't throw him first pitch fastball (which I almost always want Conde to throw)... The blame for the loss doesn't fall on Contreras... We simply have to score more than 2 f***ing runs.. 2nd &3rd and no outs should be 1.5 runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ May 26, 2005 -> 10:44 PM) I'd have to watch again to see if Count shook a sign off. I just got the impression that he was just thinking "Told ya" to whoever called it. And yeah, I'm not mad either. Not at Contreras. Lackey was very hittable tonight and we let him off the hook big time. As is the case with damn near every other pitcher we face. When the f*** is someone besides Pods and Gooch gonna hit something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 It seems to me that Contreras always starts to get weak come the 7th inning, thats when he gives up his runs all the time it seems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 If our offense could do what its supposed to do, we wouldn't even be discussing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ May 26, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) If our offense could do what its supposed to do, we wouldn't even be discussing this. How many runners did we leave on base tonight? Yeah.......a lot! Right you are my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 POOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 26, 2005 -> 10:46 PM) Yeah I don't like second guessing, and like Jack, I would have been mad if he pulled El Conde right there... But after Ozzie walked I said becareful this guy'll swing at anything... Don't throw him first pitch fastball (which I almost always want Conde to throw)... The blame for the loss doesn't fall on Contreras... We simply have to score more than 2 f***ing runs.. 2nd &3rd and no outs should be 1.5 runs. Contreras pitched his ass off tonight and made 1 mistake. This is defenitely not his fault . You can blame each of our 4-9 hitters ( hitters is a term I use very loosely ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvxplorer Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 If that wild pitch didn't bounce right back to Molina, we may not be discussing this either. It was a quirky game. Contreras pitched well. Cotts pitched well. They struck out what? Eleven batters? It would have been nice if the Sox hit better, but luck played just as much a part in this game as anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 27, 2005 -> 04:47 AM) It seems to me that Contreras always starts to get weak come the 7th inning, thats when he gives up his runs all the time it seems... That's a good analysis. He was clearly hanging his forkball in that inning. He pitched a great game though, and will face the same Angels team next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(nvxplorer @ May 27, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) If that wild pitch didn't bounce right back to Molina, we may not be discussing this either. It was a quirky game. Contreras pitched well. Cotts pitched well. They struck out what? Eleven batters? It would have been nice if the Sox hit better, but luck played just as much a part in this game as anything. Funny thing is iguchi was under the damn tag. They showed the replay from a few different angles and he looked safe every time. Boo to the umps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Ozzie Said.... Mira cabron, no tires Recta porque este cabron te da un palo, Tira curva y forkball pa que este pendejo no batee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I wanted to scream that f***ing homerun. we gave them that game with a neat little bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I hope the implication isn't that we lost because of Ozzie or Contreras... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 27, 2005 -> 02:58 AM) I hope the implication isn't that we lost because of Ozzie or Contreras... Somebody's got to take the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 26, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Yeah I don't like second guessing, and like Jack, I would have been mad if he pulled El Conde right there... But after Ozzie walked I said becareful this guy'll swing at anything... Don't throw him first pitch fastball (which I almost always want Conde to throw)... The blame for the loss doesn't fall on Contreras... We simply have to score more than 2 f***ing runs.. 2nd &3rd and no outs should be 1.5 runs. It was Contreras game to lose. He's been nothing but a tough luck pitcher and it continued today because he threw awesome. He pitched nearly as good as Buerhle did and better than Freddy did. He was just cruising making guys look nasty. There were three really hard hit balls the entire night, Cabrerra's double, that homer and Molina hit one pretty deep into center that was caught. Sox lost this one because they failed to execute with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs. In fact they failed like 3 times in those situations. Still it was a great game and this is the funnest time I've had at a basball series in a long time. It was just a well played series all around for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ May 26, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Funny thing is iguchi was under the damn tag. They showed the replay from a few different angles and he looked safe every time. Boo to the umps. He was safe. Pods was safe too. They blew two calls that night. I had such a good angle on the play at the plate and there was zero doubt in my mind (well as best as possible). The tag came in high and Guchi had his hand on the back part of the plate. It was an awful call, but that fantom Pods throwout was even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 27, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) Somebody's got to take the blame. The offense. It was there fault. Ozzie made the right call and come on, no matter what he told him he didn't tell him to hang a pitcher. As far as McPherson, he struck out a lot in the series but I must say he was probably the best hitting Angel of the series. He hit the ball hard in a couple at bats the day before and than again today. He seems to be on the verge of finding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ May 27, 2005 -> 03:01 AM) Somebody's got to take the blame. Ok. I'll go with everyone on the team who's hitting poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 QUOTE(nvxplorer @ May 27, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) If that wild pitch didn't bounce right back to Molina, we may not be discussing this either. Yeah but we got it back when Cabrera's ball hit the top of the fence and decided to come back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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