ISF Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Had to be one of the bottom 2. Buerhle was only at 93 pitches, he certainly wasn't being overextended. McPherson was overmatched against Marte. He was lucky to get the bat on the ball. I about had a conniption when Hermanson wasn't brought in after Iguchi's error however. And then I needed a paper bag and some aspirin when he ph Everett for Iguchi. Ozzie had better have bought Timo dinner last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Having a tought time between, letting Timo replace Frank, or Everrett PH for Iguchi. But I think Carl PH for Iguchi gets the nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hermy. Everett for Iguchi was a smart move. Everett usually gets the ball deep enough to score in a run. I wasn't concerned with that move at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) Hermy. Everett for Iguchi was a smart move. Everett usually gets the ball deep enough to score in a run. I wasn't concerned with that move at all. Maybe so, but I thought the percentage of Iguchi hitting a ball for a score was greater than Everett doing so (safely or a sac fly). Both have had similar amounts of big hits over the season thus far (i.e. close and late), but Iguchi's numbers are overall better. I did really like the PH of Willie for Juan. Willie has shown that he knows how to take walks. Plus, I think the threat of him stealing is what got Crede on base, despite the quick 0-2 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Hermy. Everett for Iguchi was a smart move. Everett usually gets the ball deep enough to score in a run. I wasn't concerned with that move at all. As Steff said, Hermy told the Oz that he couldn't pitch. So its not fair to rip Ozzie on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) Hermy. Everett for Iguchi was a smart move. Everett usually gets the ball deep enough to score in a run. I wasn't concerned with that move at all. Leaving Marte in after the botched double play had me heated. That's what I voted for. I'm not as hard on Ozzie as most, but I definitely have a problem with his bullpen management. When Everett came in for Iguchi, I was thinking along the same lines as you are...just hit one to semi-deep to deep left, it doesn't even have to approach the warning track. Iguchi is waaay more likely to line out to an infielder or something along those lines. If people don't agree, that's fine. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ May 31, 2005 -> 02:58 PM) Leaving Marte in after the botched double play had me heated. That's what I voted for. I'm not as hard on Ozzie as most, but I definitely have a problem with his bullpen management. When Everett came in for Iguchi, I was thinking along the same lines as you are...just hit one to semi-deep to deep left, it doesn't even have to approach the warning track. Iguchi is waaay more likely to line out to an infielder or something along those lines. If people don't agree, that's fine. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, that was my thinking behind the Everett situation. Iguchi is more a line drive person. If Hermy did indeed tell Ozzie he couldn't go, then why was he continuing to warm up after Marte was brought in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 I think the biggest problem a lot of us had with letting Everett bat was just how awful he's looked from the left side lately. The last two months or so, he's swung through an incredible amount of fastballs right down the plate. Iguchi has performed consistently enough to get the chance to atone for his error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(Be Good @ May 31, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) As Steff said, Hermy told the Oz that he couldn't pitch. So its not fair to rip Ozzie on that. I think there's some debate about those circumstances. I sure hope Dustin was "tight" because otherwise not putting him after Iguchi's error was simply indefensible. He's the best reliever in baseball right now. The bases were loaded with one out and we were up only 1 run. You have to go with the big gun at that point. You just have too. The decision to pinch hit for Iguchi was damn close to just as bad as the Dustin screw up. Iguchi is the best hitter on the team so far this year and frankly I don't think that's debateable. Everett has flat out sucked for three weeks. And, Everett's batting average against right-handers is awful. I heard later that Shields has been dominating right-handed hitters so far this year which makes me think that at least Ozzie's decision was fact-based. At the same time, you have to let Iguchi bat there. He's been so clutch all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ May 31, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) I think there's some debate about those circumstances. I sure hope Dustin was "tight" because otherwise not putting him after Iguchi's error was simply indefensible. He's the best reliever in baseball right now. The bases were loaded with one out and we were up only 1 run. You have to go with the big gun at that point. You just have too. The decision to pinch hit for Iguchi was damn close to just as bad as the Dustin screw up. Iguchi is the best hitter on the team so far this year and frankly I don't think that's debateable. Everett has flat out sucked for three weeks. And, Everett's batting average against right-handers is awful. I heard later that Shields has been dominating right-handed hitters so far this year which makes me think that at least Ozzie's decision was fact-based. At the same time, you have to let Iguchi bat there. He's been so clutch all year. I levy these complaints as one of Ozzie's number one defenders on this board. I think he had a bad day yesterday that's all. Otherwise, I continue to be thrilled with the job Ozzie is doing as our manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) Hermy. Everett for Iguchi was a smart move. Everett usually gets the ball deep enough to score in a run. I wasn't concerned with that move at all. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have you seen Crazy Carl hit lately? He hasn't made good contact lately. At least Iguchi has shown that he can make contact when he needs to. Crazy Carl has been in a terrible slump lately and pinch hitting cold off the bench would definately not help that. I think you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ May 31, 2005 -> 09:24 PM) I levy these complaints as one of Ozzie's number one defenders on this board. I think he had a bad day yesterday that's all. Otherwise, I continue to be thrilled with the job Ozzie is doing as our manager. That is essentially my thoughts on yesterdays game, and basically why I haven't made much hay over it. One poorly managed game does not make the manager. And for the most part, I think Ozzie has done an excellent job this year, as our team attitude and our record reflect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 i voted for Ozzie taking out the Gooch and putting in Everett. Everett is just not seeing the ball right now. Strike out on three fastballs, 2 of which were cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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