SoxFan1 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Cotts deserves props for tonights effort. Way to go Cottsy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 10:49 PM) Cotts deserves props for tonights effort. Way to go Cottsy! I second that notion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) Maddux and Glavine have great control. Vazquez and Gagne have great stuff. Cotts has neither great control nor great stuff. Did you even look at the stats Southsider gave ? Maddux ERA for his first 185+ innings in the bigs was over 5.50 with nearly a walk per 2 innings pitched. Its easy NOW to say sumone has great control or great stuff. Hindsight is 20/20. Nearly every pitcher struggles early in their career. Guess it's easier and cooler to be a hater than exhibit a bit of patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) Did you even look at the stats Southsider gave ? Maddux ERA for his first 185+ innings in the bigs was over 5.50 with nearly a walk per 2 innings pitched. Its easy NOW to say sumone has great control or great stuff. Hindsight is 20/20. Nearly every pitcher struggles early in their career. Guess it's easier and cooler to be a hater than exhibit a bit of patience. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Get back to me at the end of the season when we see what Cotts's ERA will be. I hope he does well but I would bet my life savings on it. Edited June 4, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) Get back to me at the end of the season when we see what Cotts's ERA will be. I hope he does well but I would bet my life savings on it. Get back to me in a few years when we should have a better idea on what Cotts is truly capable of at the major league level like Maddux , Garland, Gagne etc, etc, etc, and so on and so forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Get back to me in a few years when we should have a better idea on what Cotts is truly capable of at the major league level like Maddux , Garland, Gagne etc, etc, etc, and so on and so forth. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ummm, okay? LOL @ comparing Cotts to Maddux and Gagne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laazydotcom Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(laazydotcom @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:40 AM) No idea. Dude stop! What the f***. All your doing is pissing everyone off with your random nothings. Go away, s***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Cotts being mentioned in the same sentence as Maddux, Glavine & Gagne Oh boy....the apocalypse is indeed here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) Guess it's easier and cooler to be a hater than exhibit a bit of patience. seems to be the combined feeling around here, as most people are calling for Konerko's and Crede's blood, as well as any supporters of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Cotts is also getting regular work. Early in the season, he'd go 5,6 games w/o throwing [though with the SP's going deep into games, it was hard to find work for him]. We have to consider that this is only cotts' 2nd season pitching out of the bullpen. Vets have a hard time staying sharp, going a while after not throwing. The sox will ride his hot hand and hope guys like Marte, Viz and Shingo get on track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 This will probably be one of the dumbest comparisons ever seen on Soxtalk, but I do believe at one time, there was some lefty pitcher who had major control problems, and also only had 2 pitches (fastball/slider). But the team he was with stuck with him and let him work out the kinks and has since, become one of the most dominant pitchers of this era. Am I saying that Neal Cotts will follow down the same patch as the aforementioned pitcher, Randy Johnson? Nope. But he hasn't even had 100 innings pitched yet, is it really fair to close the book on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:42 AM) Cotts being mentioned in the same sentence as Maddux, Glavine & Gagne Oh boy....the apocalypse is indeed here Two words Vinny Castilla The emperor has no clothes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 06:18 AM) Cotts is also getting regular work. Early in the season, he'd go 5,6 games w/o throwing [though with the SP's going deep into games, it was hard to find work for him]. We have to consider that this is only cotts' 2nd season pitching out of the bullpen. Vets have a hard time staying sharp, going a while after not throwing. The sox will ride his hot hand and hope guys like Marte, Viz and Shingo get on track That's been his biggest problem all year, as long as he's had regular work he's been awesome. If he pitches on 1 day rest he has a 0 era, if he pitches on 2 days rest he has a 1.13 era. As long as Ozzie finds regular work for Neal he'll be one of our better relievers. Edited June 4, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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