kev211 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) That's why I threw the "if there were anything to it" in there. Personally I don't think anything is going to happen on this front. even if something does it wont be till july Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 OK.....Chavez is secretly engaged to one of the Olsen twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Honestly, who else would be interested in getting Chavez if Oakland did dangle him? Out of all of the contending teams this year as of now: AL: Not the Yanks with Pay Rod Not the Bo Sox with Mueller Not the Rangers with Blaylock Not the Angels with Dallas McPherson Not the Os with Mora hitting 0.297 Not the Twinkies with Cuddyer and with limited payroll NL: Not the Cards with Rolen Not the Braves with Chipper Jones Not the Marlins with Lowell Not the Giants with Alfonso hitting 0.328 (and the As would never trade him to Giants, it would hurt them big time with city popularity) Not the Cubs with Aramis Ramirez Not the Padres with Blum hitting 0.296 Not the LA Dodgers with Perez hitting 0.422 Not the Dbacks with Troy Glaus I just do not see anyone else seriously being interested in Chavez, hence we should use the leverage to our advantage. Hopefully, Kenny screws Beane who has to be desperate to trade him to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseysox Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 i know i am just going to get slaughtered for posing this question, but why is everyone in love with a guy with numbers worse than paul konerko's? chavez has been putrid this season. are you all basing it on his track record? if so, why no love for paulie here when he's in the same exact boat as chavez? to me, this is a grass-is-greener situation. i'd rather have crede. now, fire away!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) OK.....Chavez is secretly engaged to one of the Olsen twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Chavez used to hang with the Giambi boys, didn't he? His performance this season is down drastically. I'm not accusing him of anything, but it makes me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) OK.....Chavez is secretly engaged to one of the Olsen twins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 even if something does it wont be till july <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really late June or the start of July. Kenny traded for Everett and Alomar on July 1, 2003. He traded for Garcia on June 28, 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) Honestly, who else would be interested in getting Chavez if Oakland did dangle him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) i know i am just going to get slaughtered for posing this question, but why is everyone in love with a guy with numbers worse than paul konerko's? chavez has been putrid this season. are you all basing it on his track record? if so, why no love for paulie here when he's in the same exact boat as chavez? to me, this is a grass-is-greener situation. i'd rather have crede. now, fire away!! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...ic=34558&st=275 Go read that thread.. nearly every argument pro and con has been covered already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) i know i am just going to get slaughtered for posing this question, but why is everyone in love with a guy with numbers worse than paul konerko's? chavez has been putrid this season. are you all basing it on his track record? if so, why no love for paulie here when he's in the same exact boat as chavez? to me, this is a grass-is-greener situation. i'd rather have crede. now, fire away!! why would you rather have crede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Honestly, who else would be interested in getting Chavez if Oakland did dangle him? Out of all of the contending teams this year as of now: AL: Not the Yanks with Pay Rod Not the Bo Sox with Mueller Not the Rangers with Blaylock Not the Angels with Dallas McPherson Not the Os with Mora hitting 0.297 Not the Twinkies with Cuddyer and with limited payroll NL: Not the Cards with Rolen Not the Braves with Chipper Jones Not the Marlins with Lowell Not the Giants with Alfonso hitting 0.328 (and the As would never trade him to Giants, it would hurt them big time with city popularity) Not the Cubs with Aramis Ramirez Not the Padres with Blum hitting 0.296 Not the LA Dodgers with Perez hitting 0.422 Not the Dbacks with Troy Glaus I just do not see anyone else seriously being interested in Chavez, hence we should use the leverage to our advantage. Hopefully, Kenny screws Beane who has to be desperate to trade him to us. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Excellent post. Chavez probably realizes that the Sox are his best bet to get out of Oakland since we have Cruddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:20 PM) Chavez used to hang with the Giambi boys, didn't he? His performance this season is down drastically. I'm not accusing him of anything, but it makes me wonder. Id rather have a steriodless chavez then a joe crede Edited June 2, 2005 by ScottPodRulez22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) why would you rather have crede He has a higher average and more homers this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) i know i am just going to get slaughtered for posing this question, but why is everyone in love with a guy with numbers worse than paul konerko's? chavez has been putrid this season. are you all basing it on his track record? if so, why no love for paulie here when he's in the same exact boat as chavez? to me, this is a grass-is-greener situation. i'd rather have crede. now, fire away!! Our offense sucks and we could use another decent bat that can very likely heat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I agree Dodgers might be the only other serious option. But not sure with Perez hitting 0.422. They need starting pitching more than O this year, they are doing fine on O this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(jerseysox @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) i know i am just going to get slaughtered for posing this question, but why is everyone in love with a guy with numbers worse than paul konerko's? chavez has been putrid this season. are you all basing it on his track record? if so, why no love for paulie here when he's in the same exact boat as chavez? to me, this is a grass-is-greener situation. i'd rather have crede. now, fire away!! actually he is not in the same boat, Chavez has better career numbers, has a left handed bat, can hit to all fields, do not clog the bases and can steal, and is a 4 time gold glover in a much needed defensive position on a winning team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) I'm looking at the print edition of the Daily Herald right now. Scott Gregor wrote a column this morning that this rumor exists. There is no mention of how and where the rumor got started, nor are there any comments from Oakland or White Sox sources. And we all know how Kenny Williams feels about tipping off the media after they lost Vizquel. He's going to be more secretive than Jerry Krause from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 07:22 PM) Excellent post. Chavez probably realizes that the Sox are his best bet to get out of Oakland since we have Cruddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I agree Dodgers might be the only other serious option. But not sure with Perez hitting 0.422. They need starting pitching more than O this year, they are doing fine on O this year <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep. People forget about Antonio Perez. Nakamura busted but Perez has been great so far. Also, Valenstache should be back after the All-Star break. I don't see them making a move for another 3rd baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 07:17 PM) OK.....Chavez is secretly engaged to one of the Olsen twins and im engaged to the other one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) Excellent post. Chavez probably realizes that the Sox are his best bet to get out of Oakland since we have Cruddy. Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hell, if he really wants to leave the A's, he probably wouldn't even have to leave the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 spelling bees rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) Dye is gone but Anderon or Sweeney is in his place-saving money, signing Spods. Aj may be gone, but 2 years from now im sure something will be in his place, if not, maybe we tie him up in a contact this year through that year. Contreas;s high salary will be gone, and we have several prospect that may be able to take his spot. If not there will be more payroll flexibility with his salary to get a starter to fill in. All you are really losing in our young rotation is El Duque for sure, which KW could fill in with our next great phenom or a free agent with that money. 1B will not be kong cause his money would be tied up in Chavez, so you would have Rogo or Gload playing that position. Would you rather have the money tied up in a young all-star 3B or Kong at 1B with more holes that you can imagine with crede gone, and Dye gone etc. Its easier to pick up a pitcher and a 1B than a pitcher and an all star 3B IMO. I'd rather include Andersen or Sweeney in a Chavez trade than McCarthy. Outfield is the easiest position in baseball to fill. Far as Kong, I want him nowhere near this club next year. I'm not aware of any 1B on the market so I couldn't tell you any alternatives-besides Gload. Don't count on Rogowski being our 1b alternative. It may be easy to pick up a 1B and a pitcher, but it's even easier to pick up a 1B and an outfielder. Andersen over McCarthy is what I'd suggest to Beane. You have this same lineup next year with Gload inplace of Konerko, Thomas DH'ing, and Randa at 3B, I'll bet it doesn't have as many problems scoring runs as this season. McCarthy may not be in the rotation next season, but he'll be a fixture for the following 4 years. Edited June 2, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hell, if he really wants to leave the A's, he probably wouldn't even have to leave the state. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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