Flash Tizzle Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) If Williams got Chavez for Mac and Crede, it would be his best move ever, hands down. I may insult Beane regularily, but honestly, I'm worried whenever his name is mentioned in trade discussions. If the trade package you mention above is approved, you wonder what Beane notices in Crede's plate approach which may be corrected. Sure, the long-loopy undercut chop is often cited, but why would Beane accept Crede unless there's the distinct possibility of improvement? With all his popups, it won't exactly be paradise in Oakland's large foul grounds. Remember, Boras is his agent as well. Not very attractive if you consider the raise he'll likely receive next season. And McCarthy? That's a huge mistake right there. At this juncture, I wouldn't trade him for anyone short of a legitimate ace. SSI posted earlier a similar concern of mine relating to Duque/Contreras leaving the team in 2007. It would be beneficial to have a cheap starter fill in for a roster spot. Whether he's the savior or not for this organization, even at his current pitching potential, McCarthy will provide us with a dirt-cheap 4th/5th starter. With the numerous starter spots open for 2007, his price will be well appreciated when money is used to fill other positions. Edited June 2, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 With a .218 average he would feel right at home in the heart of the White Sox line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:30 PM) With a .218 average he would feel right at home in the heart of the White Sox line-up. Hash lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Been listening to sports radio here in the bay areaso I call to asked about Chavez coming to the Sox the host thinks the deal will get done between the A's and Sox. but he thinks it will be a bigger deal. He said he heard reports that the Sox are also intersted Marc Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:27 PM) I may insult Beane regularily, but honestly, I'm worried whenever his name is mentioned in trade discussions. If the trade package you mention above is approved, you wonder what Beane notices in Crede's plate approach which may be corrected. Sure, the long-loopy undercut chop is often cited, but why would Beane accept Crede unless there's the possibility of improvement. With all his popups, it won't exactly be paradise in Oakland's large foul grounds. And McCarthy? That's a huge mistake right there. At this juncture, I wouldn't trade him for anyone short of a legitimate ace. It would be beneficial to have a cheap starter fill in for a roster spot. Whether he's the savior or not for this organization, even at his current pitching potential, McCarthy will provide us with a dirt-cheap 4th/5th starter. With the numerous starter spots open for 2007, his price will be well appreciated when money is used to fill other roster positions. So you wouldnt trade for Chavez because of the future possibility of having a cheap 5th starter in 2007???? So you are willing to not make THIS team the best it can be because of the future possibility of needing another pitcher....As for me, I think the time is now, this is the best start I have ever seen, and the best we may ever see. I know KW feels the same way about this that I do, I want the title now!! And even if you dont feel that way, the Chavez trade will pay off for us in the next few years anyway especially with the stockpiling of arms we have in our system. If you are so worried about 2007, that would be two years from now, thats exactly the amount of time it look BMAC to come up through the ranks, who says that Gio or Ray wont as well. As for fixing Crede's swing---uh unless Beane has a magic wand up his ass, nothing is going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) Been listening to sports radio here in the bay areaso I call to asked about Chavez coming to the Sox the host thinks the deal will get done between the A's and Sox. but he thinks it will be a bigger deal. He said he heard reports that the Sox are also intersted Marc Ellis What would we do with Mark Ellis? Is there a third team that we haven't thought of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 WSCR, now the Dan Patrick show. Tomorrow? Today on Oprah....Eric Chavez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) Im at work now, keep me updated They're going to be talking to the GM of the Rangers next so i have no clue when they will talk to Eric Chavez. My time judgement was wrong on that. And i will try to keep you guys updated if i am still at home by the time Eric gets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 im listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) Today on Oprah....Eric Chavez! Then he can jump up and down on the couch and say how much he wants to be on the sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) WSCR, now the Dan Patrick show. Tomorrow? Today on Oprah....Eric Chavez! He the hot topic i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 He is going to be on next hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 he said in the next hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Patrick callled him "one of my favorite guests--ask a question, get an honest answer" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 What they talk to the rangers gm about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Anyone know Dan Patrick's email addy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISF Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 06:46 PM) What they talk to the rangers gm about? Who he was offering for Eric Chavez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Anyone know Dan Patrick's email addy? http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/story?storyId=1113567 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) What they talk to the rangers gm about? A-Rod leaving the Rangers and Roger Clemens coming to the Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) Anyone know Dan Patrick's email addy? actually they are talking about how they tried to trade for Larry Walker, and how he didnt want to come there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:51 PM) http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/story?storyId=1113567 Thanks... I could have looked but was wayyyy too lazy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(ISF @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) Who he was offering for Eric Chavez! 3b is the last thing that Texas needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Sounds like he's coming on after the break.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) If Williams got Chavez for Mac and Crede, it would be his best move ever, hands down. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree, but I can't see that happening. It would cost a lot more, and I'm just not comfortable with paying Chavez $11+ million per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 If some of you guys want the Sox to acquire fat contracts, how about Abreu? I imagine it's just as likely for him to be traded to the Sox as is a trade of Chavez for just Crede and McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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