3E8 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) things could be worse folks. The Yankees have lost two straight to Kansas City. Carrasco beats Randy Johnson. Perspective, everybody No offense, but that is getting really old. We should be mad after tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:47 PM) This Angels team without Vlad is nothing special. That's so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) things could be worse folks. The Yankees have lost two straight to Kansas City. Carrasco beats Randy Johnson. Perspective, everybody The problem is these problems could have been avoided. Play Kong, we have an off day tomorrow. No reason for Timo F'n Perez. He is worthless. Put in a suitable pitcher in the 7th (Cotts, Politte or Marte) not Kevin "Triple A Fodder" Walker and then Vizcaino. These guys are both mop up men. Flat out horrible managing by a guy who I am losing confidence in as the days go by. Some of this stuff is just plain out painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-HATE-CREDE Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 If the Angels had K-Rod they would have won at least two of the four the White Sox won this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) That's so wrong. Says who, Hawk? I'm just going by what I see on the field. I'm not impressed at all with the Angels team we've faced in the last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxtime Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Everyone please relax!! We one the series that is what matters. Sure I would have enjoyed the sweep, but we now have a rested bullpen for the weekend series against a division opponent. You guys have to remember this is a marathon not a sprint. Walker will be gone in day or so, and I think KW will continue to work on our bullpen. There will be different pitchers in the pen come august and sept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Again, no need for a new thread. (moving) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 usually fine, but not today. today's decision could have been made better by EVERYONE on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 No thanks. Ozzie blew it and ended up eating s***. Tonight's game was very winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:46 AM) Even Ozzie probably doesn't know how he won 2 of these 3 games. I love seeing Iguchi and Konerko sit on the bench while Uribe bats with the bases loaded. :rolly And just the other day you were b****ing about Konerko playing. Then he has a day off, you still aren't happy. Imagine that. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:04 PM) Brently on ESPN just took more shots at Ozzie for his BP handling Specifically at not bringing in Hermy in game 1, which we almost lost thanks to that move, and now bringing him in for mop up hurting his 0.00 ERA MInd you, Brentley predicted Hermy would nto do well before he even pitched his first pitch (becoz it was not a save situation) In game 1 Brantley was flat out wrong... Bringing back Buehrle is a fine move. Bringing in Marte to face McPhereson was the right move too. After that you could make an argument that he should have gone to Hermanson, but Brantley's argument was erroneous. It sounded like a former closer who thinks that saves are automatic. That the other team isn't any good, like they're not a bunch of professional hitters or something. Brantley was just whining to hear himself talk. He thinks "closers" are only to be used to get the last three outs of a game that you're leading by 3 or fewer runs. That's just dumb, not effective use of your pen. You're limiting the effectiveness of your best reliever by not necessarily putting him in the highest leverege situations. Tonight, and I didn't hear, because I'm local, he probably liked bringing in walker because he had a 0.00 ERA. We all knew Walker was a bad move. He had a 0.00 ERA despite pitching like crap. The argument that Hermy wouldn't do as well because it wasn't a save situation is a red herring straw man piece of crap argument. How did he get guys out before he was the closer Jeff? I felt the same way, but I felt that Hermy was going to give up runs because he looked like crap recording the save in his last outing vs. the Angels, allowing towering outs to Molina and somebody else. Did K-Rod allow a run just so it felt like a save situation, Jeff? Brantley is boob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) Again, no need for a new thread. (moving) Lol sorry, my thread was bad. I nominate myself for worse thread of the year. oh yeah Ozzie sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 As critical of Konerko as I am, with a day off tomorrow, there is no reason to sit him today, much less put Timo at 1B over Ozuna who has played the position before, but either way, Konerko shouldn't of sat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 it was a poorly managed game. timo shouldn't have been at first. Walker shouldn't be on the team. I don't disagree with any of that. But I think it was OK to give a couple of the bullpen guys back to back days off. It's a long season. You can't pitch guys four or five times a week. just have to hope we play better against Cleveland. The bright side of this is we could have easily been swept and we won two out of three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) And just the other day you were b****ing about Konerko playing. Then he has a day off, you still aren't happy. Imagine that. :rolly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1.) Timo at 1st base... LOL. 2.) Walker as the first man out of the pen... LOL. 3.) Vizcaino to clean up Walker's mess... LOL. 'Nuff said. :rolly Edited June 2, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) And just the other day you were b****ing about Konerko playing. Then he has a day off, you still aren't happy. Imagine that. :rolly It makes sense to do this after you call up Gload, not when you have no glove Timo out in the field. The dude has a problem in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) it was a poorly managed game. timo shouldn't have been at first. Walker shouldn't be on the team. I don't disagree with any of that. But I think it was OK to give a couple of the bullpen guys back to back days off. It's a long season. You can't pitch guys four or five times a week. just have to hope we play better against Cleveland. The bright side of this is we could have easily been swept and we won two out of three. Good points, but he doesn't use Hermanson or Cliff enough as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 If you would've rather seen Politte and Marte even though they pitched consecutive days, raise your hand. I'm so sick of babying bullpen arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) 3.) Vizcaino to clean up Walker's mess... LOL. 'Nuff said. :rolly LMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) If you would've rather seen Politte and Marte even though they pitched consecutive days, raise your hand. I'm so sick of babying bullpen arms. If only we had the day off tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 For the record, the callers are murdering Ozzie on the post-game radio show. ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) If you would've rather seen Politte and Marte even though they pitched consecutive days, raise your hand. I'm so sick of babying bullpen arms. Marte hasn't thrown many pitches at all the last few games. Marte also clearly gave us the best chance of getting out of the 7th without allowing a run. No doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Have y'all ever thought that Ozzie is trying to get these guys some playing time in critical situations to see what they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:54 AM) For the record, the callers are murdering Ozzie on the post-game radio show. ' About what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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