marsh Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 His at bat last nite shows the respect and fear other teams still have for Frank. No one else on this team gets pitched around like that with bases loaded and the winning run on deck. He makes the offense a lot scarier for the other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Which is why his presence is HUGE for us whether he hits like the old Frank or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 His ovation was really loud, too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) His ovation was really loud, too.. I heard Buehrle's was louder.... :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I heard Buehrle's was louder.... :banghead I was this/close to posting that.. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I heard Buehrle's was louder.... :banghead But Willies was loudest of all M-V-P M-V-P M-V-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:14 AM) But Willies was loudest of all M-V-P M-V-P M-V-P How could it not be... when you are an MVP everyone loves ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) But Willies was loudest of all M-V-P M-V-P M-V-P Pffftttt... Jim can't yell louder than me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) His ovation was really loud, too.. QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I heard Buehrle's was louder.... :banghead QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I was this/close to posting that.. LOL. QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) But Willies was loudest of all M-V-P M-V-P M-V-P Please stop hijacking the topic. :headshake Now back to giving Frank props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(marsh @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:16 PM) Please stop hijacking the topic. :headshake Now back to giving Frank props. Excuse you.. my post WAS on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Why would you pitch to Frank. He is a future HOF and hits to all fields. Behind him you have a guy who hasnt seen a pitch he doesnt like. Pulls the ball only. Tomahawks the ball at his head. And spins like a top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) Excuse you.. my post WAS on topic. Partial credit awarded for mentioning frank in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(marsh @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) Partial credit awarded for mentioning frank in your post. Thank you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) Why would you pitch to Frank. He is a future HOF and hits to all fields. Behind him you have a guy who hasnt seen a pitch he doesnt like. Pulls the ball only. Tomahawks the ball at his head. And spins like a top. Maybe because he's only had three at bats at the Major league level this year. Maybe because walking him brings the winning run to the plate. I agree with you though, I wouldn't have pitched to him, my point was more about what frank brings to this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(marsh @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) Maybe because he's only had three at bats at the Major league level this year. Maybe because walking him brings the winning run to the plate. I agree with you though, I wouldn't have pitched to him, my point was more about what frank brings to this offense. I think we need to have Pods Gooch Arow then Frank in the lineup. Pods/Gooch get on base and hit to all fields. Arow has been great in the 3 hole. He hits the ball with power to the gaps. And will do even better with protection behind him. They would have to pitch to frank in this situation. Men on, and Frank who hits with power to all fields and lives on mistakes would drive in a ton of runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) Why would you pitch to Frank. He is a future HOF and hits to all fields. Behind him you have a guy who hasnt seen a pitch he doesnt like. Pulls the ball only. Tomahawks the ball at his head. And spins like a top. also should not have been hittingin that situation, Gooch should have had a bat in his hands immediatley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) Why would you pitch to Frank. He is a future HOF and hits to all fields. Behind him you have a guy who hasnt seen a pitch he doesnt like. Pulls the ball only. Tomahawks the ball at his head. And spins like a top. Because is coming off of a serious injury, has a hip injury, has 3 ML ABs all year to go along with hitting under .200 in 50 minor league ABs, and hasn't looked sharp yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trexer Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) I think we need to have Pods Gooch Arow then Frank in the lineup. Pods/Gooch get on base and hit to all fields. Arow has been great in the 3 hole. He hits the ball with power to the gaps. And will do even better with protection behind him. They would have to pitch to frank in this situation. Men on, and Frank who hits with power to all fields and lives on mistakes would drive in a ton of runs. Wrong. They would continue to walk him, especially if the bases were not loaded. In order to maximize the chances of his being able to get pitches in the strike zone, it would be best to have another high avg hitter in Rowand's place so as to increase the chances of a bases loaded situation when the big guy comes up to the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(trexer @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) Wrong. They would continue to walk him, especially if the bases were not loaded. In order to maximize the chances of his being able to get pitches in the strike zone, it would be best to have another high avg hitter in Rowand's place so as to increase the chances of a bases loaded situation when the big guy comes up to the plate. As you saw last night they walk him with the bases loaded to. I love his presance he should bat 4th because then that put pressure on the pitcher to get pods rowand and gooch out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(trexer @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) Wrong. They would continue to walk him, especially if the bases were not loaded. In order to maximize the chances of his being able to get pitches in the strike zone, it would be best to have another high avg hitter in Rowand's place so as to increase the chances of a bases loaded situation when the big guy comes up to the plate. Check out Arows average and then compare it to the rest of the team. Pods/Gooch/Arow gives us the best opportunity to have the bases loaded over anyone else. Kong needs to start hitting or Dye needs to flip in his place. Your comments are what I made when people thought that Thomas was going to change the offense on this team. We need people in front on him to get on, and we need people behind him that can drive in runs. Thomas has a great eye and is someone they pitch around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Because is coming off of a serious injury, has a hip injury, has 3 ML ABs all year to go along with hitting under .200 in 50 minor league ABs, and hasn't looked sharp yet. And despite all of that, they didn't give him one fastball. That is very telling, especially since K-Rod has a plus fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:14 AM) But Willies was loudest of all M-V-P M-V-P M-V-P You sure that wasnt for Timo??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 QUOTE(marsh @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) His at bat last nite shows the respect and fear other teams still have for Frank. No one else on this team gets pitched around like that with bases loaded and the winning run on deck. He makes the offense a lot scarier for the other team. I think it was a wise move to pitch around him when you had Uribe in the on deck circle who would swing at a pitch thrown 10 feet over his head if you threw it there. With a 4 run lead they could afford to walk Frank with the bases juiced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 QUOTE(thomsonmi @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) Which is why his presence is HUGE for us whether he hits like the old Frank or not. Uh...duh. Why is there even a thread about this? This is beyond obvious everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Uribe was hitting .405 with bases loaded going into the series. He'd missed two chances to get a hit in the previous two games. Playing the odds, he should have gotten a hit last night. Leaving him in to hit was the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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