fathom Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) not ozzie's fault. duke's fault. Yes it is Hernandez's fault. However, Crisp should have never had anything good to hit that AB. That directive should have come from Ozzie and Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valponick Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I would honestly feel more comfortable with BMac being the 5th starter for the rest of the year, at least he throws strikes and listens to his catcher and pitching coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Give the guy a break, his computer is frozen up. Sox pitching refuses to make Crisp move his feet, home run off the foul pole on a belt high inside half fastball. DJ was just commenting you need to go down and in on Crisp or just slightly high out of the strike zone. El Duque cannot make those kind of mistakes, a horrible pitch on his part. didn't mean to sound like an ass. just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hernandez is done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(valponick @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:06 AM) I would honestly feel more comfortable with BMac being the 5th starter for the rest of the year, at least he throws strikes and listens to his catcher and pitching coach. Hernandez at Colorado next week will not be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Yes it is Hernandez's fault. However, Crisp should have never had anything good to hit that AB. That directive should have come from Ozzie and Cooper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fastball inside was called for, that is what he threw. He missed his spot out over the plate. I will assume that one finger down and pointed inward means throw the fastball inside. That HR is no one's fault but El Duque, he missed his spot and furthermore, he was the one who hit a guy and walked a guy that inning. Blame goes where blame belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I don't know if it's just the TV mics or not, but the crowd seems dead tonight... I guess Duque's pitching tonight will do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Blowing four to nothing leads makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 didn't mean to sound like an ass. just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not sure that's the case. I often follow the game here if I'm working online and can't have the TV or radio on. There's nothing wrong with providing a little play by play. Plus, maybe it's just me and some of my friends on this board, but we frequently have trouble getting into and staying with the chat. Plus to be honest it's a little more civilized in the game thread. You did not sound like an ass, just wanted to point out various people are present in the game thread for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Well, at least it seems like Dye is out of that horrendous funk he was in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:07 AM) The fastball inside was called for, that is what he threw. He missed his spot out over the plate. I will assume that one finger down and pointed inward means throw the fastball inside. That HR is no one's fault but El Duque, he missed his spot and furthermore, he was the one who hit a guy and walked a guy that inning. Blame goes where blame belongs. How many times are we going to throw Crisp inside fastballs, only to have him turn on them and drive them down the line? Hernandez has had no control on his inside fastballs all game. It's sad when we have to pray for a starting pitcher to get a single batter out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) just this isn't the best place if your looking to follow a game, this is more for comments/discussions Don't forget people telling you how smart they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 They need to get this run in and take back some momentum. Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 El duque is not good, and has not been good for the last few outings. The big test is how long Ozzie goes with him, he could let this get out of hand quickly. He was spotted a four run lead and choked on it. something is still wrong with the guy. This is a big inning for him. he lets a run in here and its downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 this game is going to get ugly in the top of the 4th, I hope Ozzie has Cotts prepared early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) They need to get this run in and take back some momentum. Nooope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 i just sent hawk an email....let's see if it comes up. PS: it mentions soxtalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) They need to get this run in and take back some momentum. Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR. Well I would suggest that Duque hit them... but he's already tried that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) They need to get this run in and take back some momentum. Also I did not like the Coco Crisp and Victor Martinez showboating in the Indians dugout after the HR. Happens every time they score a run. Hernandez has a different hand shake for every player on the team. I think he should be more worried about hitting than coming up with a new hand shake. I might be alone on that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 How many times are we going to throw Crisp inside fastballs, only to have him turn on them and drive them down the line? Hernandez has had no control on his inside fastballs all game. It's sad when we have to pray for a starting pitcher to get a single batter out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good point - maybe they need to get farther in and make him move his feet. He looks way too comfortable up there. I recall quite a few hits by that guy where he went the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 08:12 PM) this game is going to get ugly in the top of the 4th, I hope Ozzie has Cotts prepared early I guarantee he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseysox Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 ok, ok. so el duque has some problems right now. we all knew this magnificent starting pitching wasn't going to last, and we all knew that el duque was aging and injury prone. assuming el duque is going to be like this from now on, the question becomes what should we do? if he's just going to get knocked around for four runs in six innings most of the time, are we better off with mccarthy every fifth day? perhaps a four-man rotation is the answer, but i don't think so. i say if el duque isn't right or is just showing his age and takes a dump in his next start, it might be time to get mccarthy up for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 These guys played a long tough 13 inning loss yesterday. Worst thing you do is give them some life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 This is one of the things that drive me insane... you get a good lead then right away our pitcher comes out and lets them right the hell back in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 El duque is not good, and has not been good for the last few outings. The big test is how long Ozzie goes with him, he could let this get out of hand quickly. He was spotted a four run lead and choked on it. something is still wrong with the guy. This is a big inning for him. he lets a run in here and its downhill. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> His stuff looks ok. I think it's in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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