Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) Rowand has been killing the ball while batting third this season. He now has a .284 AVG with a .343 OBP. Do you keep him batting third and bat Frank cleanup a la the Maggs/Frank duo of last season? LF Podsednik 2B Iguchi CF Rowand DH Thomas 1B Konerko RF Dye C Pierzynski SS Uribe 3B Crede Or do you bat Frank third and move Rowand elsewhere in the lineup? Your thoughts? Edited June 4, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:38 PM) Rowand has been killing the ball while batting third this season. He now has a .284 AVG with a .343 OBP. Do you keep him batting third and bat Frank cleanup a la the Maggs/Frank duo of last season? LF Podsednik 2B Iguchi CF Rowand DH Thomas 1B Konerko RF Dye C Pierzynski SS Uribe 3B Crede Or do you bat Frank third and move Rowand elsewhere in the lineup? Your thoughts? That's the line-up I would go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Rowand has been killing the ball while batting third this season. He now has a .284 AVG with a .343 OBP. Do you keep him batting third and bat Frank cleanup a la the Maggs/Frank duo of last season? LF Podsednik 2B Iguchi CF Rowand DH Thomas 1B Konerko RF Dye C Pierzynski SS Uribe 3B Crede Or do you bat Frank third and move Rowand elsewhere in the lineup? Your thoughts? I would go with that too unless konerko turns it around then i would flip him and frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 That's the line-up I would go with. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like Pods, Iguchi, and Rowand at the top of the order. That's a lot of speed for Frank to drive in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:43 PM) I would go with that too unless konerko turns it around then i would flip him and frank AGREED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) I don't disagree, but hasn't Thomas earned the 3-hole? I mean, Thomas would be an effective third hitter if we had a consistent #4. Edited June 4, 2005 by Pauly8509CWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Too many RH bats together. Need to put AJ higher and send Paulie's useless ass to the bottom 3 once Frank returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) I don't disagree, but hasn't Thomas earned the 3-hole? I mean, Thomas would be an affective third hitter if we had a consistent #4. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't see how "earning" has anything to do with it. Frank has batted both 3rd and cleanup in recent years. Frank didn't have a problem batting cleanup for Magg$ last season. I'm just looking for the best possible lineup to score runs. Edited June 4, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) I don't see how "earning" has anything to do with it. Frank has batted both 3rd and cleanup in recent years. Frank didn't have a problem batting cleanup for Magg$ last season. I'm just looking for the best possible lineup to score runs. I'm not saying he should bat 3rd, I was just throwing in a different look at it. Personally I would like Rowand in the three hole and have Frank bat 4th, AJ fifth and Paulie 6th. Carl/Dye bat 7th. The other two need to play paper scissors rock for 8th because neither can get on base so it doesnt matter what spot they hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I think we're missing the really important question: Where does Timo bat? And I'm not kidding, because he'll be having plenty of at-bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:56 AM) Too many RH bats together. Need to put AJ higher and send Paulie's useless ass to the bottom 3 once Frank returns the way Paulie hits (pulling everything), protection with Frank Thomas hitting behind him wouldn't be a bad idea. why not Rowand-Konerko-Thomas at 3-4-5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 I think we're missing the really important question: Where does Timo bat? And I'm not kidding, because he'll be having plenty of at-bats. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In Charlotte, although that's still not far away enough from the Sox for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) In Charlotte, although that's still not far away enough from the Sox for me. He's not going anywhere, and I think we both know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 the way Paulie hits (pulling everything), protection with Frank Thomas hitting behind him wouldn't be a bad idea. why not Rowand-Konerko-Thomas at 3-4-5? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Frank is a RBI producer. You don't bat guys like him 5th. It makes more sense to bat Konerko 5th since he is the anti-clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Id say split up the Big Hurt and Kong. Frank will get on base a ton with all his walks and Paulie will GIDP 98% of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvxplorer Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Everyone's suggestions are valid (sadly, even the one about Timo - well, not valid, but painfully accurate). The bright side is that the middle bats seem to be coming around. Dye has been fairly hot, and Everett showed signs today. Konerko has been getting hits here and there. It's a good position to be in. If everyone keeps hitting, the Sox will do some damage regardless of the order. To answer the question, I'd go with Rowand in the #3 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:07 AM) the way Paulie hits (pulling everything), protection with Frank Thomas hitting behind him wouldn't be a bad idea. why not Rowand-Konerko-Thomas at 3-4-5? Because with Konerko batting cleanup, you lose the protection for ARow. PK is pretty much HR or bust. My lineup: Podsednik Iguchi Rowand Thomas(could be flipped with ARow) Pierzynski Dye Konerko Crede Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:10 AM) Frank is a RBI producer. You don't bat guys like him 5th. It makes more sense to bat Konerko 5th since he is the anti-clutch. QUOTE(CubsSuck1 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:12 AM) Id say split up the Big Hurt and Kong. Frank will get on base a ton with all his walks and Paulie will GIDP 98% of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:17 AM) Because with Konerko batting cleanup, you lose the protection for ARow. PK is pretty much HR or bust. My lineup: Podsednik Iguchi Rowand Thomas(could be flipped with ARow) Pierzynski Dye Konerko Crede Uribe so why flip A-Row with Thomas? why has everyone on this site forgotten that from 1999-2002, Konerko was a legit #3 hitter, with a horrid start to 2003 and a bad start this year, without much help from the hitter behind him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 If Jermaine could play SS for a half an inning, couldn't he give 1B a shot? Oddly enough, Dye or Everett or Thomas aren't the problems offensively right now -- Konerko is. ...then again, I see he had two hits tonight. I don't give a damn where he bats, Thomas needs to be in the lineup daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:23 AM) so why flip A-Row with Thomas? why has everyone on this site forgotten that from 1999-2002, Konerko was a legit #3 hitter, with a horrid start to 2003 and a bad start this year, without much help from the hitter behind him? Wasn't Frank the #3 hitter from 99-02? I know he was out in 2001, but I thought Maggs took the #3 spot then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) If Jermaine could play SS for a half an inning, couldn't he give 1B a shot? Oddly enough, Dye or Everett or Thomas aren't the problems offensively right now -- Konerko is. ...then again, I see he had two hits tonight. I don't give a damn where he bats, Thomas needs to be in the lineup daily. Yeah, I was seriously thinking about Everett or Dye playing 1B at least until Gload is back. PK, even with his "surge" if that's what you want to call it as of late he's still been the worse of the bunch. I seriously think that at least Dye could play 1B and may be better suited there since he can't run like he used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvxplorer Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Because with Konerko batting cleanup, you lose the protection for ARow. PK is pretty much HR or bust. My lineup: Podsednik Iguchi Rowand Thomas(could be flipped with ARow) Pierzynski Dye Konerko Crede Uribe AJ has been in a slump (4 for 32), so I would not bat him 5th. I'd move Dye and Konerko up and bat AJ 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 (edited) If Jermaine could play SS for a half an inning, couldn't he give 1B a shot? Oddly enough, Dye or Everett or Thomas aren't the problems offensively right now -- Konerko is. ...then again, I see he had two hits tonight. I don't give a damn where he bats, Thomas needs to be in the lineup daily. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's an interesting idea but I wouldn't try it until the offseason. If Dye could learn to play 1st in the offseason, we wouldn't have to waste money resigning Paulsy. Dye definately has the size to play the position at 6'5". If Dye could play 1B, we could just keep Frank as our DH, throw Brian Anderson in RF, and look for an upgrade to Cruddy at 3B. Seems like an interesting possibility to me. Edited June 4, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 Wasn't Frank the #3 hitter from 99-02? I know he was out in 2001, but I thought Maggs took the #3 spot then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep. Magg$ batted 3rd when Frank was injured. Before Frank and Magg$ got injured last season, Magg$ was batting 3rd and Frank was batting 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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