Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) I totally forgot about Clement. An Iowa boy to boot. I'm swinging into his camp. I just spent 4 days in Iowa, how about the Sox draft me in the 1st round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Hey Jason, get the damn server resolved to I can pimp FutureSox to Hawk and DJ via e-mail, sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 06:03 PM) Hey Jason, get the damn server resolved to I can pimp FutureSox to Hawk and DJ via e-mail, sheesh. I'm so pissed right now. I've backordered the site in case it clears before stuff gets taken care of. I faxed all the proper documents about a week ago and still haven't heard anything back. Now I called and left a message today and shot two more emails to the people and am hoping somehow I can get a response. Once it gets back in my control...its a 24 hr turn around. I'm giddy to get the Wilder interview finished up (and won't do it until I get FS live) plus a hopeful interview with Shaffer after the draft is finished up. Oh and heads will have a nice announcement as well Hopefully its just a matter of a day or two (it sucks big time balls that it won't be up on draft day now...I'm freaking dying without the site). On a sidenote, I'm so freaking pumped for the draft Mike...its gonna be badass. I wish the Sox had more picks though (like last year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:07 PM) I'm so pissed right now. I've backordered the site in case it clears before stuff gets taken care of. I faxed all the proper documents about a week ago and still haven't heard anything back. Now I called and left a message today and shot two more emails to the people and am hoping somehow I can get a response. Once it gets back in my control...its a 24 hr turn around. I'm giddy to get the Wilder interview finished up (and won't do it until I get FS live) plus a hopeful interview with Shaffer after the draft is finished up. Oh and heads will have a nice announcement as well Hopefully its just a matter of a day or two (it sucks big time balls that it won't be up on draft day now...I'm freaking dying without the site). On a sidenote, I'm so freaking pumped for the draft Mike...its gonna be badass. I wish the Sox had more picks though (like last year). Yeah, Heads told me what the announcement was. Everyone here will be thrilled when they hear who we lined up. It's actually the second year in a row we've talked to him, so there's your only hint. Me, you, Dan and whoever should get on IM tomorrow and start divying up the player bios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 06:10 PM) Yeah, Heads told me what the announcement was. Everyone here will be thrilled when they hear who we lined up. It's actually the second year in a row we've talked to him, so there's your only hint. Me, you, Dan and whoever should get on IM tomorrow and start divying up the player bios. That sounds cool to me. I'm gonna try and write stuff up as if it were the site. I'm even thinking of loading the entire site onto the Soxtalk server and just have a temp FS up. Don't know if I'll get around to that tonight or not though. But I'll be on aim throughout the draft so we can get stuff together and I'm sure Danno will be on as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Alright, sounds good as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Just tried something new, maybe just maybe I'll get a quick response and get this baby up before the end of draft day (*crosses fingers*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) No, it was nobodies fault. Townsend wanted to go back to school to finish up his degree during the negotiation process. He registered for classes and MLB came up with a retarded ruling that he was no longer eligible to sign with the Orioles and would have to re-enter the draft. It was one of the worse decisions I've ever seen MLB make. I disagree. The MLB rule has always stated that as soon as you attend your first class you are no longer eligible to sign. Townsend's agents tried to get around that by declaring him Ineligible or voiluntary retired (or whatever term they used), saying he was giving up his eligibilty so that he could continue to negotiate. Unfortuantely, they did so and assumed that would be okay and Townsend went to class. MLB stuck by their rules, which I think they should have. The rule is there to give the MLB team leverage (the player has the leverage of going back to school). It is there for a purpose and to allow an agent to circumvent it, gives agents an advantage. I was glad that MLB took the stand they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 06:43 PM) I disagree. The MLB rule has always stated that as soon as you attend your first class you are no longer eligible to sign. Townsend's agents tried to get around that by declaring him Ineligible or voiluntary retired (or whatever term they used), saying he was giving up his eligibilty so that he could continue to negotiate. Unfortuantely, they did so and assumed that would be okay and Townsend went to class. MLB stuck by their rules, which I think they should have. The rule is there to give the MLB team leverage (the player has the leverage of going back to school). It is there for a purpose and to allow an agent to circumvent it, gives agents an advantage. I was glad that MLB took the stand they did. I understand the purpose, but I think there should be a way for a player to deem himself ineligible from collegiate baseball and go back to school. Of course if he were to do that he'd be giving up a whole lot of leverage. There are definately two sides to this and I think Townsend was on the end of some bad advice and it came back to bite him in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) But I'll be on aim throughout the draft so we can get stuff together and I'm sure Danno will be on as well Yeah, I'll be on. I'm setting my alarm as 11:30 is early for me during the summer lol. Just don't call me Danno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Yeah, I'll be on. I'm setting my alarm as 11:30 is early for me during the summer lol. Just don't call me Danno. No s***, I'm prone to waking up at like 1 PM now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) I understand the purpose, but I think there should be a way for a player to deem himself ineligible from collegiate baseball and go back to school. Of course if he were to do that he'd be giving up a whole lot of leverage. There are definately two sides to this and I think Townsend was on the end of some bad advice and it came back to bite him in the butt. He'd be gaining leverage by doing that, Jason. There would be no deadline for him to have to make a decision until almost a year later. That doesn't help the club that drafted him. They have money set aside for draft picks. They don't want have to spend that money the following year by signing him before the draft. That could affect their budget for that year's draft. That whole move was to give Townsend more leverage and MLB said Nyet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Anyone know what the projection is for Ryan Mullins out of Vanderbilt?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 02:59 AM) Anyone know what the projection is for Ryan Mullins out of Vanderbilt?? 73rd best player available per BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 grassy ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I do not want a catcher or a local pitcher drafted in first round. Catchers rarely pan out, and local pitchers rarely pan out. Just say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(MnSoxFan @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 03:38 AM) I do not want a catcher or a local pitcher drafted in first round. Catchers rarely pan out, and local pitchers rarely pan out. Just say no. I agree on catchers, but I think local pitchers are fine... Honel's problem isnt because he is local its because he can barely reach 80 on his fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(MnSoxFan @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 03:38 AM) I do not want a catcher or a local pitcher drafted in first round. Catchers rarely pan out, and local pitchers rarely pan out. Just say no. Then I guess your man is Lance Broadway, who by the way I'm really warming up to. I've got this feeling that he's gonna be one of the better ones out of this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 03:57 AM) Then I guess your man is Lance Broadway, who by the way I'm really warming up to. I've got this feeling that he's gonna be one of the better ones out of this draft. Since you've brought up Torra a week or so ago, I've really warmed up to him. I luv warming up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Since you've brought up Torra a week or so ago, I've really warmed up to him. I luv warming up... ROFL...I love the comparison in the MLB scouting report on Torra: COMMENT: Large frame. Broad shoulders and long arms. Slimmed down since '04. Similar to Matt Ginter. Quick, loose, and smooth arm. Lots of FB at knees. Able to command FB and CB down and away to RHH. Potential ML starter w/ development of change-up. Just had to laugh that they compare him to Ginter. He's got to be crapping his pants at that. I dno't know if they are talking about the weight loss or him as a pitcher. But Ginter was always a pretty damn big guy in my book. Clip of Torra Don't know if that will work. His curve looks like his best pitch. Fastball was consistent in the 88-90 MPH range on this day. Also mixed in a changeup, looked like a pretty decent changeup (hard to tell from the angle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well, wasn't able to get the clip to show up. I don't know how to put in javascript popups and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 (edited) Here's a nice piece on Carillo. Edit: removed If that doesn't work, go here and look at the top right for his video. http://hurricanesports.collegesports.com/s...asebl-body.html Edited June 7, 2005 by Palehosefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Just watched some clips on Townsend. This were from his Rice days but his delivery isn't near as smooth as Tora's. Has similar velocity on his FB and holy cripes his slider is whicked (really nice drop). Of course its hard cause the camera angles are nasty. Big guy, kind of bulky, and his delivery doesn't look near as smooth as Torra (I think that had to be mentioned again). And I don't buy the listed weight on Townsend, he looks bigger than Torra and they are listed at the same weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Carillo was more impressive than both, imo. His fastball has a lot of late movement (both tailing into the hands of righties or away from lefties) and he can also throw it with nice sinking action. Definately has the makings of a nice curve and changeup, but still has to refine those pitches more. Better velocity than the other two. I also think he's more projectable than the others. He has decent height and has good movement, but could potentially add 10-15 pounds to his frame. Really a nice pitcher with good makeup. His ball explodes a lot more than the other two righties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Interesting comparison in regards to Bogusevic. They compare him a bit with Mulder. I can definately see the resemblance. They have similar builds and repetoires. Obviously thats a heck of a comparison and Bogusevic isn't near there yet, but he does have 3 good pitches and while he isn't a strikeout machine or have an overly dominate fastball he has good movement. His slider is a plus pitch though while his fastball is good and his circle change is a pitch with definate potential. After scouring around and finding a few clips of all the pitchers (and clips don't do justice of watching them in person or on tv often) but I'd rate them Carillo, Bogusevic, Torra, Townsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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