Cerbaho-WG Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 hfadhfashfkasd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 With the exeception of Wunsch and Glover thus far..... and Glover got semi-lit up his last outing. Took the words right out of my mouth Cerb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Ya gotta give some exception to Marte. He got hit hard today, but hes been pretty good. But White, Gordon and Koch all blow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Ya gotta give some exception to Marte. He got hit hard today, but hes been pretty good. But White, Gordon and Koch all blow... Yeah..... I forgot about Marte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 This bullpen overall in 03 has been one of WORST in baseball. f***ing pen is in shambles and JM does not help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 This pen will be one of the top 5 in baseball when the season is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 This bullpen overall in 03 has been one of WORST in baseball. f***ing pen is in shambles and JM does not help. shouldnt you put a little blame on coop then....... afterall the pen is his job to handle.......... just thought i would point that out while your blasting on jm..... yeah and put a little blame on kw's shoulders too ..after all he went out and got us all these saviors......... .... if were going to point fingers lets point them in all the right directions ok............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 shouldnt you put a little blame on coop then....... afterall the pen is his job to handle.......... just thought i would point that out while your blasting on jm..... yeah and put a little blame on kw's shoulders too ..after all he went out and got us all these saviors......... .... if were going to point fingers lets point them in all the right directions ok............. Well, no Coop shouldnt take the blame. His starters have a 3.66 ERA and three guys in the bullpen have done really well. The other three have not and they are screwing this whole team up. Koch will get it together (unless hes hurt, then were in trouble) but Im not sure about Gordon and White, they might just stink period. Well have to see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 umm unless i missed something ......isnt coop in charge of the whole bull pen...not just the starters???????? therefore its his problem if they are not performing right............geez everyone is ready to crusify jm for each and every little thing that goes wrong with the team...... the pen is not his problem thats why he has coop here......the hitting is wards problem and the rest of it lays between jm and kw . (depending on what kw is letting jm take charge of this week).lets divi up this blame stuff equally.....you can put some of it on the players as well...........im sick of everyone blaming jm alone for each and every little thing wrong...........its not all his fault.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 umm unless i missed something ......isnt coop in charge of the whole bull pen...not just the starters???????? therefore its his problem if they are not performing right............geez everyone is ready to crusify jm for each and every little thing that goes wrong with the team...... the pen is not his problem thats why he has coop here......the hitting is wards problem and the rest of it lays between jm and kw . (depending on what kw is letting jm take charge of this week).lets divi up this blame stuff equally.....you can put some of it on the players as well...........im sick of everyone blaming jm alone for each and every little thing wrong...........its not all his fault.............. Doesn't your head hurt from all that banging on the wall..?? I know mine does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 umm unless i missed something ......isnt coop in charge of the whole bull pen...not just the starters???????? therefore its his problem if they are not performing right............geez everyone is ready to crusify jm for each and every little thing that goes wrong with the team...... the pen is not his problem thats why he has coop here......the hitting is wards problem and the rest of it lays between jm and kw . (depending on what kw is letting jm take charge of this week).lets divi up this blame stuff equally.....you can put some of it on the players as well...........im sick of everyone blaming jm alone for each and every little thing wrong...........its not all his fault.............. Well you cant really fault Coop for the fact that three guys arent performing (four if ya wanna include Garland). Every team is gonna have someone struggling, and we have three. Its their fault, they need to get into shape. Coop should work with em and try to figure out whats wrong but its not his fault. They are the ones who arent getting batters out, not Cooper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 umm unless i missed something ......isnt coop in charge of the whole bull pen...not just the starters???????? therefore its his problem if they are not performing right............geez everyone is ready to crusify jm for each and every little thing that goes wrong with the team...... the pen is not his problem thats why he has coop here......the hitting is wards problem and the rest of it lays between jm and kw . (depending on what kw is letting jm take charge of this week).lets divi up this blame stuff equally.....you can put some of it on the players as well...........im sick of everyone blaming jm alone for each and every little thing wrong...........its not all his fault.............. Well you cant really fault Coop for the fact that three guys arent performing (four if ya wanna include Garland). Every team is gonna have someone struggling, and we have three. Its their fault, they need to get into shape. Coop should work with em and try to figure out whats wrong but its not his fault. They are the ones who arent getting batters out, not Cooper... i think thats HCS's and steff's point with JM , oldroman...you say its not coops fault because the pitchers are the ones not getting the batters out....well the same can said for manuel..its not manuel's fault if these pitchers cant get anyone out...the guys that are failing bigtime right now are two veterans who have , when healthy , been successful almost every place they have pitched...but now it's manuel's fault and not coop's that they stink??? im not sure i agree with them 100%..i think this team has taken on jerry's laid back attitude too much... i dont think jerry works these guys enough..i dont think the accountability is there..thats why im on the fire manuel bandwagon.. but steff and HSC are right when they say that bashing manuel for every little thing that doesnt work out and letting others who get paid to shoulder some of the responsibility off the hook isnt fair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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