retro1983hat Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Why was Hernandez arguing with Don Cooper and Ozzie on the bench last night? It seemed to be pretty heated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Didn't see it, so I have no clue. I'd be interested to know more though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I'm guessing he wanted to stay in the game. Glad to see that he tried to communicate that through the proper channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ok, I was hoping it was just that. As much as Hernandez frustrates me with his slow game and how he has to always get out of jams, I loved his enthusiasm when he was on base yesterday. It was like he remembered what it was like to play complete baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 It looked like he was pissed they were taking him out but he had 102 pitches I believe but was also hitting a good groove...he is a bad ass competitor and wants the ball all the time.. you have to like that. Hopefully that attitude rubs off on everyone... El Duque will be huge when the Sox reach the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 It looked like an argument, but noone looked angry really. Duque just looked like he was trying to stay in the game. Everytime I see shots of the dugout during the game, those guys look like they are having the greatest time with each other. Thats part of what I really love about this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) It looked like an argument, but noone looked angry really. Duque just looked like he was trying to stay in the game. Everytime I see shots of the dugout during the game, those guys look like they are having the greatest time with each other. Thats part of what I really love about this team. Did anyone see MB throwing seeds at Raines in the dugout? Raines kept trying to duck them but MB was constantly tossing seeds at the back of his head and using AJ as protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:21 AM) Did anyone see MB throwing seeds at Raines in the dugout? Raines kept trying to duck them but MB was constantly tossing seeds at the back of his head and using AJ as protection. I love this team. Some random Raines related note does anyone else love when he starts running down the line before innings then turns it on right before 1st as if to beat the throw? Raines is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) El Duque will be huge when the Sox reach the post season. maybe... but the way things are going... maybe he will be huge in middle relief edit: not saying he's awful, but he's starter #5 of 5 stuff-wise Edited June 9, 2005 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) maybe... but the way things are going... maybe he will be huge in middle relief edit: not saying he's awful, but he's starter #5 of 5 stuff-wise im sure hed rather be off the team than in middle relief, i dont see him sitting well with that, besides who would fill his shoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:24 AM) I love this team. Some random Raines related note does anyone else love when he starts running down the line before innings then turns it on right before 1st as if to beat the throw? Raines is awesome. he is a magnet for foul balls too. Hawk and DJ are always laughing at him ducking and falling out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 If we make an extended post-season run, we're going to need El Duque for at least one start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:24 AM) I love this team. Some random Raines related note does anyone else love when he starts running down the line before innings then turns it on right before 1st as if to beat the throw? Raines is awesome. He is the only first base coach I have ever seen do that. He has lost a lot of speed too cause those plays are always close, when he hits first he sticks his arms out indicating that he was safe on the play, the guy is always having fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) He is the only first base coach I have ever seen do that. He has lost a lot of speed too cause those plays are always close, when he hits first he sticks his arms out indicating that he was safe on the play, the guy is always having fun. 806 career stolen bases folks, Spods will never touch that figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) 806 career stolen bases folks, Spods will never touch that figure. Raines broke into the league at the age of 19 and went on to play 23 seasons in the big leagues. Pods broke into the league at the age of 25 and has been up ever since. So Tim Raines had a 6 year headstart on Pods. Now one thing that Pods could do is break Tim Raines' career high in stolen bases which was 90. If he could accomplish that then he'd have something on Raines. Oh yeah and Tim Raines had 808 career stolen bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Extra Innings stuck me with the Rox broadcasts for the whole series, so there was not that much focus on the Sox dugout. What they did manage to get though, was Freddie going to town and picking his nose - I mean really digging in there for something. I was sitting there quietly hoping he didn't pull one out and eat it on camera, and luckily they cut away before we had to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) Raines broke into the league at the age of 19 and went on to play 23 seasons in the big leagues. Pods broke into the league at the age of 25 and has been up ever since. So Tim Raines had a 6 year headstart on Pods. Now one thing that Pods could do is break Tim Raines' career high in stolen bases which was 90. If he could accomplish that then he'd have something on Raines. Oh yeah and Tim Raines had 808 career stolen bases. The White Sox media guide lists his career stolen bases as 806, so maybe we should call them and ask them why the typo. I think they dont count his 2 in 1979 because I believe they were pinch run. And who cares about his head start? he actually really only played his first decent length season when he was 21-22. I wasnt knocking SPODS, Tim Raines was a GOD!! look at the seasons from 81 through 87: 71, 78, 90, 75, 70, 70, 50. Damn!!! No to mention his BA and OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) The White Sox media guide lists his career stolen bases as 806, so maybe we should call them and ask them why the typo. I think they dont count his 2 in 1979 because I believe they were pinch run. And who cares about his head start? he actually really only played his first decent length season when he was 21-22. I wasnt knocking SPODS, Tim Raines was a GOD!! look at the seasons from 81 through 87: 71, 78, 90, 75, 70, 70, 50. Damn!!! No to mention his BA and OBP. I'm just saying if Pods played his first full length season when he was 21 and not when he was 27 he may have been able to put up comparable career SB numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) I'm just saying if Pods played his first full length season when he was 21 and not when he was 27 he may have been able to put up comparable career SB numbers. Its possible, but being as consistant a base stealer as Raines was, is extremely hard to achieve in the league nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 El Duque wanted to go one more inning because he was in a real grove at that point. But Coop and Ozzie were playing it right. He just got off the DL, he was in line for a win. Ozzie could use some of the Bullpen because of the day off...etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) El Duque wanted to go one more inning because he was in a real grove at that point. But Coop and Ozzie were playing it right. He just got off the DL, he was in line for a win. Ozzie could use some of the Bullpen because of the day off...etc never thought about the DL part, i would have left him in, build his confidence, he was pitching pretty good in a hitters park Edited June 9, 2005 by chi-guy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) never thought about the DL part, i would have left him in, build his confidence, he was pitching pretty good in a hitters park El Duque has enough confidence. In that situation you have to be worried about his health and keep him around 100 pitches. You don't want to risk reinjuring his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) El Duque has enough confidence. In that situation you have to be worried about his health and keep him around 100 pitches. You don't want to risk reinjuring his shoulder. well either way can be right, if i were ozzie and my pitcher who just came off the DL wants to throw id let him, but i can see why you wouldnt want him pitching longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) maybe... but the way things are going... maybe he will be huge in middle relief edit: not saying he's awful, but he's starter #5 of 5 stuff-wise He is also a playoff pitcher. Honestly when it comes to a big game situation, we have no more proven pitcher than Hernandez... He is money when it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelatinoheat_30 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Princess Dye @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 09:26 AM) maybe... but the way things are going... maybe he will be huge in middle relief edit: not saying he's awful, but he's starter #5 of 5 stuff-wise i totally disagree. he will be a huge part of the sox in the postseason as a starter, which is the biggest reason they wanna keep him healthy the whole season. he has so much invaluable experience winning it all, nobody on the sox has as much experience as him. always helps to have a guy like him. he knows what it takes to win under pressure. the key is keeping him healthy. Edited June 9, 2005 by thelatinoheat_30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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