Cubs Suck23 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I hope the Sox bring this guy up to the majors to be Konerko backup until we make a trade for a backup 1B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 i agree, but most folks think he's a tender flower who would be irreversably damaged by such a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) I hope the Sox bring this guy up to the majors to be Konerko backup until we make a trade for a backup 1B What exactly makes you think he can produce on the Major League level right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 I dont know if he will excel in the majors but its worth a shot. He is batting over 300 and has good power plus right now we dont have a backup for PK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) I dont know if he will excel in the majors but its worth a shot. He is batting over 300 and has good power plus right now we dont have a backup for PK Casey Rogowski hadn't hit at all his first 2 years in the minors(not counting Rookie ball 30 ABs.) Then last year he started showing some power and a high average so the Sox promoted him to Birmingham this year. This year he has been just awesome. The more likely move in this situation if Ross Gload really is hurt again would be to promote Rogo to Charlotte and call up Greg Norton strickly to be used as a backup to Konerko. Rogo only has 211 ABs at AA I would give him a little time in Charlotte (which is a f***ing bandbox especially when compared to Birmingham) instead of calling him up straight from Charlotte. Then again Rogo is on the 40. Which would make my scenerio kind of impossible to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) LOL, a 8 million dollar backup. Lets just try it out! What a great plan. Maybe Garcia should go to the bullpen so the Sox can try Gio as the third starter. Its worth a shot! edit: I read that wrong. I still dont agree with the move. But remove above said "smartass-ness" Edited June 9, 2005 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) LOL, a 8 million dollar backup. Lets just try it out! What a great plan. Maybe Garcia should go to the bullpen so the Sox can try Gio as the third starter. Its worth a shot! He didn't say that Rogo would start over Konerko he said Rogo would serve as Konerko's backup. He just forgot the s at the end of Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) He didn't say that Rogo would start over Konerko he said Rogo would serve as Konerko's backup. He just forgot the s at the end of Konerko. observe my edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) observe my edit. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) What exactly makes you think he can produce on the Major League level right now? I'll bite kal He is 24 years old so he isnt exactly an immature person, as was developed as a champion wrestler so his heart and work ethic are no questions in my mind. HIs OBP seems to be one of his largest attributes and drew 91 walks last year. He has been producing nice numbers this year .322 .395 .493, with 33 Rbi's. The only concern I have is his K's, but it seems like this kid can produce on higher levels as he played OK in ST and is hitting well in Bham. He is also on the 40 man which would make the move somewhat easy. The only real negative is taking away at-bats from someone who seem to be improving at a steady pace. I think that he could move up to AAA and they could kick Norton up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) I'll bite kal He is 24 years old so he isnt exactly an immature person, as was developed as a champion wrestler so his heart and work ethic are no questions in my mind. HIs OBP seems to be one of his largest attributes and drew 91 walks last year. He has been producing nice numbers this year .322 .395 .493, with 33 Rbi's. The only concern I have is his K's, but it seems like this kid can produce on higher levels as he played OK in ST and is hitting well in Bham. He is also on the 40 man which would make the move somewhat easy. The only real negative is taking away at-bats from someone who seem to be improving at a steady pace. I think that he could move up to AAA and they could kick Norton up again. The biggest thing Rogo has going for him is that he's on the 40. Rogo hit .211 in spring training with a .250 OBP albeit in 19 ABs but still very unimpressive. The only realistic backup first baseman that's not currently with the team is Ross Gload but it appear that he has injured himself again. With Norton there is really no spot on the 40 for him. I'm just not convinced on Rogo. He has to play in AAA before he becomes a possiblily at the Major league level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 haven't seen enough consistent evidence Rogowski has big-league power. he needs to play most of the seaon at AA and then spend time at AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 maybe in a couple of years, but Casey isn't ready now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) The biggest thing Rogo has going for him is that he's on the 40. Rogo hit .211 in spring training with a .250 OBP albeit in 19 ABs but still very unimpressive. The only realistic backup first baseman that's not currently with the team is Ross Gload but it appear that he has injured himself again. With Norton there is really no spot on the 40 for him. I'm just not convinced on Rogo. He has to play in AAA before he becomes a possiblily at the Major league level. Not everyone needs to make a stop in AAA before they make the big club. The kid is arguably the best hitter on our AA team, there have been plenty of kids called up from AA that have done just fine. His sparse at-bats in ST are still better than Timo's production right now in more at-bats. He also has a record of getting on base easier and steals more bases, his attitude has been praised as well as his work ethic. Edited June 9, 2005 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) Not everyone needs to make a stop in AAA before they make the big club. The kid is arguably the best hitter on our AA team, there have been plenty of kids called up from AA that have done just fine. His sparse at-bats in ST are still better than Timo's production right now in more at-bats. He also has a record of getting on base easier and steals more bases, his attitude has been praised as well as his work ethic. Attitude isn't everything. I just don't think he's ready. 372 career minor league games is not enough to me. He has to show that he can consistantly produce at the minor league level before I even think about calling him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) Attitude isn't everything. I just don't think he's ready. 372 career minor league games is not enough to me. He has to show that he can consistantly produce at the minor league level before I even think about calling him up. I believe A-row had about that many if not less when they brought him up for the first time, did you think he needed more time at the minor league level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Rogo stats below. G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 57 211 37 68 17 2 5 33 104 25 52 10 4 .395 .493 His stats are good, but he isn't ready for coming up to the majors yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go-sox05 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 didnt El Duque bean him in the head or somthing in spring training. Dont mess with El Duque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think he should be promoted to AAA soon and than next season compete with Gload for the 1B job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(sayitanitso @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Rogo stats below. G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 57 211 37 68 17 2 5 33 104 25 52 10 4 .395 .493 His stats are good, but he isn't ready for coming up to the majors yet. what part of his stats make you think he isnt ready for a back up role yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) what part of his stats make you think he isnt ready for a back up role yet?? Because those stats are from AA and it's only the second good season he's had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I'm waiting for the "Bring up Gio" thread... "Uh, yeah, maybe since he's so young, he could do for us what Dontrelle did for the Marlins. Yeah, Yeah!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:11 PM) what part of his stats make you think he isnt ready for a back up role yet?? That he put them up at AA, after spending 3 consecutive seasons in the same league. He's not a power hitter. He hits lots of line drives like Aaron Rowand. ---- Speaking of Rowand, in his age 23 season, he was at charlotte. He put up numbers of .295/.345/.526with 16 HRs in 330 ABs. He only struck out 47 times in those ABs. Brian Anderson is in his age 23 season at Charlotte. He currently is batting .293/.362/.495 with 9 HRs in 200+ ABs. They're pretty simillar. Anderson walks a little bit more, but hits fewer doubles, and strikes out more(almost 60 in 200ABs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) I believe A-row had about that many if not less when they brought him up for the first time, did you think he needed more time at the minor league level? In 2002 it looked like Aaron needed more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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