RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Is there anyone other than me that is sick of the constant trades and pick-up ideas that have been popping up lately. I understand that some people think there are weaknesses on this team that could be addressed, but how many of them have cost us our season? We are still in first place and have the best record in the MLB, do you really think our team is that bad? I for one, am going to stop discussing trade rumors until July. You can join me if you want, but unless it my man-crush Eric Chavez, I wont no part of any transaction. This is the best Sox team I have ever seen, and I am loving the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 03:17 PM) Is there anyone other than me that is sick of the constant trades and pick-up ideas that have been popping up lately. I understand that some people think there are weaknesses on this team that could be addressed, but how many of them have cost us our season? We are still in first place and have the best record in the MLB, do you really think our team is that bad? I for one, am going to stop discussing trade rumors until July. You can join me if you want, but unless it my man-crush Eric Chavez, I wont no part of any transaction. This is the best Sox team I have ever seen, and I am loving the ride. The only trades I'm interested in are ones that will bring us a reliable reliever and one that gets us our boy, Chavez, or Randa. But since there's no more actual rumors about any of them, I'll just shut up about it for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 So i think if we trade BMac and Crede we can get Pujols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 But my Xbox said I can trade Joe Crede and Joe Borchard for Eric Chavez. If it's in the game, it's in the game. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 exactly why I am going to ignore the trades, and just post on the team that we have now. We pay so much attention to who everyone else has, we keep forgetting that our team is kicking everyone elses ass!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 The only one who does a really good job with all the what if trade stuff is beck72, because he does a little research before he starts a new thread. How much a guy makes, his injury history, and Sox mgmt's trading history with that guy's team are all big factors. Example ... today in the paper KW came out and basically to forget about trading within the AL Central, it just doesn't happen. How many Tony Graffanino threads did we have, and yet no one seemed to catch on that the Sox and Royals haven't made a deal since 1987. Further, it is not too hard to look up what a guy makes. If it's a huge salary I doubt the Sox are interested, save the new thread. This recent Mike Cameron thread is a good example. Further, KW and Guillen have both said if anything, it will be smaller complementary additions. I can see role players being shifted but any of the starting 8 position players, highly doubt it. If there's an injury all bets are off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:17 PM) Is there anyone other than me that is sick of the constant trades and pick-up ideas that have been popping up lately. I understand that some people think there are weaknesses on this team that could be addressed, but how many of them have cost us our season? We are still in first place and have the best record in the MLB, do you really think our team is that bad? I for one, am going to stop discussing trade rumors until July. You can join me if you want, but unless it my man-crush Eric Chavez, I wont no part of any transaction. This is the best Sox team I have ever seen, and I am loving the ride. Oh come on now, trades and upgrades are perfectly normal talk. The only think I wish is that the mods would create a pinned trade thread. I understand we have a the best record in baseball, but come on just saying we will beat the twins because of that isnt prudent. We have to use every single advantage that we have to win this thing. Currently we have 3 offensive liabilities. Kong, Uribe and Cruddy. Kong has a 8.5 mill contract, he is our only first baseman and he has power. They aint getting rid of him. He is coming around a bit, and the only issue that I have with the man is that I wish he would be a bit more generous with using the entire field instead of pulling the ball all the freakin time. Uribe has been great defensively. He is a butcher at the plate. Swings at everything. Can play 2nd, SS and 3rd. Great arm and great defense. now Cruddy 1400 major league AB's later and he is still the same hitter. Bat is a bit slow, will hit the home run when he knows whats coming. Great defense also. We cant have two guys who are streaky and may or may not hit at the same time in the lineup for the long haul., There will be games this season and eventually in the playoffs where we might need a contact play, a good bunt, or hitting to right from the bottom of our lineup. Cruddy has frustrated our coaches many times. He has shown no improvement. I figure that KW will upgrade at 3rd base, get us a good lefty reliever, and possibly another good arm in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 its ok to say we have weaknesses, because we do, but saying that Crede is a liability is one thing, then proclaiming that we can trade him and a prospect for Blaylock is another. Thats the only thing im sick of, saying that we have weaknesses is fine with me, we need to focus on our team first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I agree...it's time to stop the madness , but having a pinned thread will just get totally mucked up with people going back and forth. There was one last year and it was REALLY hard to keep track of where the thread was going. I honestly believe most of the people who start these threads really want to help this team, they just aren't realistic. The best thing to do is what you are going to do, just ignore them until you are ready to start chiming in. Good luck with that. I've tried and it's hard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) its ok to say we have weaknesses, because we do, but saying that Crede is a liability is one thing, then proclaiming that we can trade him and a prospect for Blaylock is another. Thats the only thing im sick of, saying that we have weaknesses is fine with me, we need to focus on our team first. Well the xbox trades are a bit much. So far you might not agree what I am saying, but my trade comments are based in reality and have an actual chance of actually happening. I dont see us making whole sale changes. I see just Crede and some pitching help. The only way this will change is if we have an injury. We need to shore the pen up a bit to allow us to make it a short game later in the season. Our starters have been great, but we need to give some of them a rest when they eventually have a dead arm period. Edited June 9, 2005 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Freddy Garcia was picked up in June and Robbie and Carl Part 1 were long before the All-Star break so I think its relevant talk now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) Well the xbox trades are a bit much. So far you might not agree what I am saying, but my trade comments are based in reality and have an actual chance of actually happening. I dont see us making whole sale changes. I see just Crede and some pitching help. The only way this will change is if we have an injury. We need to shore the pen up a bit to allow us to make it a short game later in the season. Our starters have been great, but we need to give some of them a rest when they eventually have a dead arm period. I agree with you for sure, I like the thought of us upgrading, but just throwing names out there because they play the same position as our player is stupid and unfounded. Not matching money and talent, and mentioning team that arent selling is downright xbox worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Freddy Garcia was picked up in June and Robbie and Carl Part 1 were long before the All-Star break so I think its relevant talk now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, Kenny traded for Everett and Alomar on July 1, 2003 and he traded for Freddy Garcia on June 28, 2004. We could see a move in a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) The only one who does a really good job with all the what if trade stuff is beck72, because he does a little research before he starts a new thread. How much a guy makes, his injury history, and Sox mgmt's trading history with that guy's team are all big factors. Example ... today in the paper KW came out and basically to forget about trading within the AL Central, it just doesn't happen. How many Tony Graffanino threads did we have, and yet no one seemed to catch on that the Sox and Royals haven't made a deal since 1987. Further, it is not too hard to look up what a guy makes. If it's a huge salary I doubt the Sox are interested, save the new thread. This recent Mike Cameron thread is a good example. Further, KW and Guillen have both said if anything, it will be smaller complementary additions. I can see role players being shifted but any of the starting 8 position players, highly doubt it. If there's an injury all bets are off. Jim If you look at my Arod thread, I actually detailed out all of the hurdles. Obviously I said it was almost impossible it would happen, but I thought it was worth discussing especially on an off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 04:03 PM) Jim If you look at my Arod thread, I actually detailed out all of the hurdles. Obviously I said it was almost impossible it would happen, but I thought it was worth discussing especially on an off day. I agree, yours are well thought out and usually we have a good report about what is what, but obviously yours arent the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 wait I forgot that you were talking about the A-rod trade, that was pretty far off the reservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 09:14 PM) wait I forgot that you were talking about the A-rod trade, that was pretty far off the reservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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