NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Before you all flame away there is a method to my madness. Back in 2000 we basically won the division in April and May and took the rest of the year off and it showed when Seattle totally schooled us in the playoffs. We got complacent with a big division lead and we fell asleep as a team. Ideally Id like to see Minny stay 3-5 games back for the rest of the season. That way they keep the Sox honest. If that's the case we'll go into the playoffs sharp and on our toes as opposed to 2000 when we basically backed into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 12:41 AM) Before you all flame away there is a method to my madness. Back in 2000 we basically won the division in April and May and took the rest of the year off and it showed when Seattle totally schooled us in the playoffs. We got complacent with a big division lead and we fell asleep as a team. Ideally Id like to see Minny stay 3-5 games back for the rest of the season. That way they keep the Sox honest. If that's the case we'll go into the playoffs sharp and on our toes as opposed to 2000 when we basically backed into the playoffs. I'll be happy if the fold starting September 15th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) Before you all flame away there is a method to my madness. Back in 2000 we basically won the division in April and May and took the rest of the year off and it showed when Seattle totally schooled us in the playoffs. We got complacent with a big division lead and we fell asleep as a team. Ideally Id like to see Minny stay 3-5 games back for the rest of the season. That way they keep the Sox honest. If that's the case we'll go into the playoffs sharp and on our toes as opposed to 2000 when we basically backed into the playoffs. As long as we keep taking series, i'm with ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 its true, plus that way it makes for a more exciting race all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'd prefer a 7 or so game cushion for the year, but that's just me. My only problem with that small of a lead is it can be overcome in a few games. A 7 game lead is a lot harder to overcome than a 3-5 game lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I agree there needs to be some pressure on the sox to suceed. If they got to far behind too, and the sox quit that might start them in one of those slumps they cant get out of and that would be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 The way we're both playing right now, the Sox and Twins could finish with the top 2 records in the AL. If that happened, we'd have a good chance of facing an AL West opponent in a short series. I don't really like the Sox facing anyone from the West in the postseason given our recent history and what happened in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:49 PM) The way we're both playing right now, the Sox and Twins could finish with the top 2 records in the AL. If that happened, we'd have a good chance of facing an AL West opponent in a short series. I don't really like the Sox facing anyone from the West in the postseason given our recent history and what happened in 2000. This is a different team. Whatever happen before this year matters none. With our pitching, I like our chances against anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) EAT s*** YOU BASTAGE Edit: I have had waaaay tooo much to drink today.....FOCK IT Edited June 11, 2005 by sox-r-us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) Before you all flame away there is a method to my madness. Back in 2000 we basically won the division in April and May and took the rest of the year off and it showed when Seattle totally schooled us in the playoffs. We got complacent with a big division lead and we fell asleep as a team. Ideally Id like to see Minny stay 3-5 games back for the rest of the season. That way they keep the Sox honest. If that's the case we'll go into the playoffs sharp and on our toes as opposed to 2000 when we basically backed into the playoffs. Piss on that. I want MIN to be a practical non-factor right around the time we start playing them again. Your "madness" doesn't account for this happening the past couple of years then getting blown out right around July/August/September by MIN whether we were in front of or chasing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:49 PM) The way we're both playing right now, the Sox and Twins could finish with the top 2 records in the AL. If that happened, we'd have a good chance of facing an AL West opponent in a short series. I don't really like the Sox facing anyone from the West in the postseason given our recent history and what happened in 2000. I couldn't believe my ears back in 2000 when Frank Thomas blamed the Sox lack of hitting in that series on "the sun being in their eyes". :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 They won't be going away for a while that's for sure. This could be the best team they've had in quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(CubKilla @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) Piss on that. I want MIN to be a practical non-factor right around the time we start playing them again. Your "madness" doesn't account for this happening the past couple of years then getting blown out right around July/August/September by MIN whether we were in front of or chasing them. The idea, of course, is to keep them at arms length and not fall apart like a bunch of b****es like we did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'd like to have a nice 5 game cushion. That way we can rest our players and set up our pitching rotation for the post season in the last week of the season. Instead of guys having to press til the very end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) The idea, of course, is to keep them at arms length and not fall apart like a bunch of b****es like we did last year. You want as big a cushion as possible when the team chasing you has the likes of Santana, Radke, Silva, Lohse, Hunter, Ford, Stewart, and Jones. Screw this checking the standings BS everyday. And getting a big lead means rest for your playoff starters down the road so they don't get burned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 my problem with the Twins being so close right now is that we have the best record in baseball. we're 41-19, and only have a 5.5 game lead on a 4 game winning streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvxplorer Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) Before you all flame away there is a method to my madness. Back in 2000 we basically won the division in April and May and took the rest of the year off and it showed when Seattle totally schooled us in the playoffs. We got complacent with a big division lead and we fell asleep as a team. Ideally Id like to see Minny stay 3-5 games back for the rest of the season. That way they keep the Sox honest. If that's the case we'll go into the playoffs sharp and on our toes as opposed to 2000 when we basically backed into the playoffs. This makes sense, but 2000's team was entirely different from this one. The Sox have won this year despite slumps from several key hitters. Pitching, defense and speed will win in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) my problem with the Twins being so close right now is that we have the best record in baseball. we're 41-19, and only have a 5.5 game lead on a 4 game winning streak. The Twins are a good team. The Sox can only control what they do. If you told me that on June 11th we would have a 5.5 game lead on the team that's owned us for 3 years, i'd gladly take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 10, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) This makes sense, but 2000's team was entirely different from this one. The Sox have won this year despite slumps from several key hitters. Pitching, defense and speed will win in the playoffs. Agree on all points but like I said. Complacency kills. I dont care how good a team is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Really, it's way too early to start considering the consequences of whether a large or small lead will have an effect on us during the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) Really, it's way too early to start considering the consequences of whether a large or small lead will have an effect on us during the playoffs. I only bring it up because I saw a lot of posts hemming and hawing about the fact that we can't pull away from Minny ( myself included ) but I got to thinking and its not such a bad thing IMHO to have someone back there pressing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 01:07 AM) I only bring it up because I saw a lot of posts hemming and hawing about the fact that we can't pull away from Minny ( myself included ) but I got to thinking and its not such a bad thing IMHO to have someone back there pressing us. I like Ozzie's point of view on this. We don't have to worry about Minnesota if we just keep winning. The pressure is on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 All valid points, but I'd take the big lead for the sake of my nerves... Regardless, the only thing I do want is for us to be in playoffs, no matter what the lead ends up being... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 One thing to keep in mind: If we win the division and the twinkies win the wild card, we play them in the first round If we lose the division to them and still win the wilkd card, we still play them in he first round Who focking cares? PS: This post assumes the White Sox or Twinkies will be best team in AL if they wint he division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) my problem with the Twins being so close right now is that we have the best record in baseball. we're 41-19, and only have a 5.5 game lead on a 4 game winning streak. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Calm down then. We have the second biggest lead for 1st place in the MLB. The Cardinals have a 6.5 game lead over the Flubs. We have a 5.5 game lead over the Twinkies. Edited June 11, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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