fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 A few days ago, I made a comment that it seems like far too often, we have to win, and overcome the decisions of our manager. This was one of those games where we could have produced another run or two, it likely would have been all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 11:07 PM) Ozzie was a bastage tonight..... There you go again. I've had that word stuck in my head all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:08 AM) A few days ago, I made a comment that it seems like far too often, we have to win, and overcome the decisions of our manager. This was one of those games where we could have produced another run or two, it likely would have been all over. I totally agree with you. First and third nobody out and we get 3 straight K's that is unacceptable. BTW does anybody know where the Sox rank as far as team K's its gotta be up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Oh well, let's move on Freddie has pitched very well this year, and he is typicaly very good on the road and in day games NO reason why we should not win tomorrow against this bad hitting team in a pitchers park Let's take 2/3 and come back home Hopefully Twinkies lose tomorrow though I will not hold my breath for that to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:11 AM) Oh well, let's move on Freddie has pitched very well this year, and he is typicaly very good on the road and in day games NO reason why we should not win tomorrow against this bad hitting team in a pitchers park Let's take 2/3 and come back home Hopefully Twinkies lose tomorrow though I will not hold my breath for that to happen First, Twins are facing an inexperienced pitcher in Houlton. I bet they kick his ass. The Twins are hitting lights out right now, and have just a great middle of the order. Also, I expect to see an interesting lineup tomorrow. I have a feeling we'll see Timo in CF, and Everett in RF. Lawrence is easier for lefties to hit than righties, so I'm sure Ozzie will use that to play his typically 3rd game of the series lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) Oh well, let's move on Freddie has pitched very well this year, and he is typicaly very good on the road and in day games NO reason why we should not win tomorrow against this bad hitting team in a pitchers park Let's take 2/3 and come back home Hopefully Twinkies lose tomorrow though I will not hold my breath for that to happen It defenitely aint the pitching that worrys me about this team. Everyone got excited when they hit the ball around in Colorado but that is defenitely the exception not the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:11 AM) Oh well, let's move on Freddie has pitched very well this year, and he is typicaly very good on the road and in day games NO reason why we should not win tomorrow against this bad hitting team in a pitchers park Let's take 2/3 and come back home Hopefully Twinkies lose tomorrow though I will not hold my breath for that to happen Once again I agree with Peavy and Eaton not pitching this weekend there is no reason they should not win 2 of 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 right after konerko got on first base i was thinking we should get a pinch runner, dont see why we couldnt put timo there and have frank play at first, that killed us, the call was right if you look at it, you cant complain we still pitched good and at least now we know ozzie shouldnt have to put his scrubs into the lineup because this is a must win game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) right after konerko got on first base i was thinking we should get a pinch runner, dont see why we couldnt put timo there and have frank play at first, that killed us, the call was right if you look at it, you cant complain we still pitched good and at least now we know ozzie shouldnt have to put his scrubs into the lineup because this is a must win game <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ozzie can only start Timo at 1st base. He doesn't trust him enough to use him there for just 1 inning. :headshake My dead grandmother could have rolled out of her grave and over home plate faster than Paulsy did. Edited June 12, 2005 by Jabroni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Tonight was an awful case of a team swinging at balls, and taking strikes. I know that Pods has become a hero to many Sox fans, but I'm a little disappointed in his hitting lately. He's not drawing walks like he was earlier in the season, and his lack of extra base hits has been pretty astonishing. He's also not been nearly as aggressive on the bases lately. However, Pods and Iguchi are definitely are toughest outs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 12:16 AM) Ozzie can only start Timo at 1st base. He doesn't trust him enough to use him there for just 1 inning. :headshake has everett ever played first? , dont see why he couldnt give it a shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 12:15 AM) right after konerko got on first base i was thinking we should get a pinch runner, dont see why we couldnt put timo there and have frank play at first, This is funny. There are 6 guys on the bench. In decending order of speed. Willie Ozuna Everett Widger Timo Frank In decending order of defensive ability at first base Ozuna Widger Frank Everett Willie Timo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:17 AM) has everett ever played first? , dont see why he couldnt give it a shot Look, I dislike Ozzie and his decisions more than just about anyone on here....but if he put Everett at first in the 9th, I would have gone nuts. When you have a one run lead, your main concern should be about having your best defense on the field for the 9th inning. Hermanson failed, plain and simple. The fact we don't have a back-up 1b is simply pathetic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:17 AM) has everett ever played first? , dont see why he couldnt give it a shot I just don't see him playing first base, What the hell why don't we give Greg Norton a call up We have not won a division title since we got rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 I still think a great acquisition we could have made for a back-up 1B/power hitter off the bench would have been for Eli Marrero. Of course, that would mean that Ozzie/KW would have had to give up Timo probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 01:23 AM) I still think a great acquisition we could have made for a back-up 1B/power hitter off the bench would have been for Eli Marrero. Of course, that would mean that Ozzie/KW would have had to give up Timo probably. Marrero just got traded. To Baltimore, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 12:21 AM) I just don't see him playing first base, What the hell why don't we give Greg Norton a call up We have not won a division title since we got rid of him. this just shows that we need a player who can come off the bench and play almost every position, robert fick does a nice job along with lenny harris, thats probably the one thing we lack, someone clutch off the bench besides whoever sits out a game between dye everett and thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:23 AM) Of course, that would mean that Ozzie/KW would have had to give up Timo probably. No not that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:24 AM) this just shows that we need a player who can come off the bench and play almost every position, robert fick does a nice job along with lenny harris, thats probably the one thing we lack, someone clutch off the bench besides whoever sits out a game between dye everett and thomas I've been thinking about the lack of versatility off of our bench. We have a lot of guys who can play multiple positions (Ozuna at 3b, Harris at SS/CF, Timo at 1b, Everett in the OF), but none of the guys are close to being average fielders at their second positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan79 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:24 AM) this just shows that we need a player who can come off the bench and play almost every position, robert fick does a nice job along with lenny harris, thats probably the one thing we lack, someone clutch off the bench besides whoever sits out a game between dye everett and thomas We have Timo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:26 AM) We have Timo! All I know is that it's absolutely inexcusable to not have a back-up 1b. I'm beginning to think there's no reason to have Willie on the roster if Ozzie is going to be timid to pr. Obviously, Timo is the person who clogs our roster right now. However, that argument has been made far too often for me to bring it up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) I've been thinking about the lack of versatility off of our bench. We have a lot of guys who can play multiple positions (Ozuna at 3b, Harris at SS/CF, Timo at 1b, Everett in the OF), but none of the guys are close to being average fielders at their second positions. i almost would like to see us get desi relaford, because he can play the whole infield, or mike lamb, hes capable of first third and the corner outfield positions Edit: not that willie and ozuna do bad jobs or anything, relaford is just a better hitter Edited June 12, 2005 by chi-guy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:30 AM) i almost would like to see us get desi relaford, because he can play the whole infield, or mike lamb, hes capable of first third and the corner outfield positions Mike Lamb would be a great fit on this team. He can play 1b or 3b, and is a pretty solid bat off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 All I know is that it's absolutely inexcusable to not have a back-up 1b. I'm beginning to think there's no reason to have Willie on the roster if Ozzie is going to be timid to pr. Obviously, Timo is the person who clogs our roster right now. However, that argument has been made far too often for me to bring it up again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's obvious that they are just trying to cruise by until Gload gets healthy. But it's pathetic that they are risking not having a backup 1st baseman just so they can keep Timo on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:30 AM) i almost would like to see us get desi relaford, because he can play the whole infield, or mike lamb, hes capable of first third and the corner outfield positions Edit: not that willie and ozuna do bad jobs or anything, relaford is just a better hitter Relaford is more versatile than Willie or Ozuna. By that, I mean he is pretty close to an average infielder wherever you put him on the field. I don't think Ozuna is a very good 3rd baseman, and Willie isn't cut out to play SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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