aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Bottom line is Mike is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:45 AM) Bottom line is Mike is free. So I guess you'll have no issue sending your youngins to Neverland for a sleepover.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) So I guess you'll have no issue sending your youngins to Neverland for a sleepover.. I'd never do that, Hell I think he is a sick f***er myself (maybe not to the extremes as others see him) I am just one of the biggest fans of his music from my early childhood so I am blinded by that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:49 AM) I'd never do that, Hell I think he is a sick f***er myself (maybe not to the extremes as others see him) I am just one of the biggest fans of his music from my early childhood so I am blinded by that... I liked his music back in the day also.. Saved up 2 months of allowance to buy Thriller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:51 AM) I liked his music back in the day also.. Saved up 2 months of allowance to buy Thriller. That gives me a thread idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) I liked his music back in the day also.. Saved up 2 months of allowance to buy Thriller. I went to his concert when I was 4 or 5, I still remember it to this day. From the time I was 3 to 5 years old, I wore out 3 copies of Thriller on tape from playing it so much. What is really sad to me in this whole thing is that he had a perfectly normal appearance during the Off The Wall/Thriller days and just totally was never satisfied with himself. Combine that with his well-documented f***ed up childhood, this guy really just never had a shot at a normal life. He perhaps had the biggest rise to fame of all-time. That is no excuse for his unnatural behaviors toward children at all, I think he needs serious help. However, it's not hard to understand, given his background, how he got so messed up. I do think he has done some great things over time for people, a great example is Ryan White, who had AIDS and it was his dream to meet Michael before he died. He did a lot for that kid and his family. Hell if anything he's been overgenerous to people of the world. Unfortunately, this all gets overshadowed by whatever goes on at Neverland Ranch and that is just sad to me given the immense talent and heart I believe he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 I met and rode Dumbo with him at Disney when I was 8.. I'll bring the pictures Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) I met and rode Dumbo with him at Disney when I was 8.. I'll bring the pictures Friday. Was this before or after the surgeries started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) I met and rode Dumbo with him at Disney when I was 8.. I'll bring the pictures Friday. Is that what he calls it eh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) I met and rode Dumbo with him at Disney when I was 8.. I'll bring the pictures Friday. You can't make up stuff like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) Was this before or after the surgeries started? He had has just his nose altered at that point. He was still dark and wearing that red suit all the time. And talked in a normal "man" voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) You can't make up stuff like that I wish it never happened. My parents bring it up allll the time. "Steff... remember when you rode Dumbo with MJ.. ? Go get the pics..!!". :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) I wish it never happened. My parents bring it up allll the time. "Steff... remember when you rode Dumbo with MJ.. ? Go get the pics..!!". :headshake I can't wait to see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:07 AM) I can't wait to see this. I look like a deer caught in headlights. I was sitting as far as I possibly could away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 This just turned into the thread of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:10 AM) This just turned into the thread of the year. Not until the pics get posted... Then it is the thread of the century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) Not until the pics get posted... Then it is the thread of the century. I wouldn't count on that happening. In celebration of this great moment in Soxtalk History, I am now listening to Billie Jean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 06:49 AM) I'd never do that, Hell I think he is a sick f***er myself (maybe not to the extremes as others see him) I am just one of the biggest fans of his music from my early childhood so I am blinded by that... And to think Steff, I'm gonna have to sit next to him in a few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 07:06 AM) I wish it never happened. My parents bring it up allll the time. "Steff... remember when you rode Dumbo with MJ.. ? Go get the pics..!!". :headshake ROFL ,this is gonna be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) And to think Steff, I'm gonna have to sit next to him in a few days Just a word of advice, if you calls you a "PYT", kick him in the nuts as hard as you can and RUN!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Just a word of advice, if you calls you a "PYT", kick him in the nuts as hard as you can and RUN!!!! LMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The blame the prosecution for ever bringing this case to trial & I tend to agree. I understand the prosecution's frustration over this. They had been seeking an opportunity to convict Jackson for the last 10 yrs. Reading the juror's comments it would appear most of them feel Jackson did indeed molest children & fill their bellies with wine at Neverland in the last decade. But this case hinged on the credibility of the mother & that was the weakest possible cornerstone to build a case. The defense used her earlier case against JC Penny to effectively paint her as a fraud & a con that will do anything including use of her own children as witnesses to milk a fast buck. Most jurors felt that was where the case fell apart. It was necc a statement of Jackson's innocence as it was a statement of her guilt in the JC Penny case. Sadly now that this case is on the books & can be used as a precedent the nation will likely suffer. It will be harder to convict child molesters as a result. Think of the liberties they will have: - no need for guardian consent to pick up a child for which they have some familiarity with the family - ok to fill their young bodies with alcoholic bevs as long as they keep quiet about it until a few years pass - ok to sleep in the same bed with them despite the sexual paraphenalia surrounding the bedroom It's a sad day for America that this case ever went to trial. But as bad as this is it pale's in comparison to what's going on in IL. In 2002 a 16 yr old Naperville girl was drugged with ecstasy & gang raped by a group of men. They video-taped the event. When the police went looking to charge them with rape many of them fled the country. Two stayed. One was convicted for taping the incident & is serving less than 6 months. The other was acquitted of all charges on the basis that it appeared consensual on the tape. Never mind the fact that the girl had been drugged. Now one has returned from Serbia (supposedly the ring leader in this affair) & is confident he will be cleared as well. The girl & her family have filed civil suits as well. This is a horrible precedent & if the remaining rapists get off it will make it very difficult to prosecute rape cases like this in the future. Apparently it's ok to gang rape a 16 yr old girl in the state of IL as long as you drug her up good & tape the affair. Apparently it's reasonable to assume that a 16 yr old girl would consent to being spit upon & written upon with a major marker as well. At least for her sake Sonny's conviction means the state acknowledged that the tape was made w/out her consent. At least she has legal recourse to keep it off the internet. As one who is raising an early/pre teen this story scares the s*** out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Isn't a DUI kind of the same deal? Some people i know swear to never drive drunk, but when they have a few drinks in them they don't care anymore. I know E and booze are two totally different things, but being under the influence messes up all kinds of judgement so couldn't you technically get away with saying "i was drunk, so i drove." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Where did you come from lady And ooh won't you take me there Right away won't you baby Tendoroni you've got to be Spark my nature Sugar fly with me Don't you know now Is the perfect time We can make it right Hit the city lights Then tonight ease the lovin' pain Let me take you to the max I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care And I'll take you there I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care I'll shake you there Anywhere you wanna go Nothin' can stop this burnin' Desire to be with you Gotta get to you baby Won't you come, it's emergency Cool my fire yearnin' Honey, come set me free Don't you know now is the perfect time We can dim the lights Just to make it right In the night Hit the lovin' spot I'll give you all that I've got I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care And I'll take you there I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care I'll take you there Breakdown Pretty young things, repeat after me (Michael) I said na na na (P.Y.T.'s) na na na (Michael) na na na na (P.Y.T.'s) na na na na (Michael) I said na na na (P.Y.T.'s) na na na (Michael) na na na na na (P.Y.T.'s) na na na na na (Michael) I'll take you there I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care And I'll take you there I want to love you (P.Y.T.) Pretty Young Thing You need some lovin' (T.L.C.) Tender lovin' care I'll take you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Not sure if it was posted, but anyone see the new Triumph bit outside the Jackson trial with the MJ supporters? Good stuff. On a scale of 1-10, how old is Michaels boyfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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