Winnin Ugly Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Would be Todd Helton he would be our new 1B for many years he is such a great hitter.. So I would trade B Mac as part as a package to get him if its for this season or next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 He makes a Gazillion dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) He makes a Gazillion dollars. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 ATTN: mod delete this quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 We would have money too spend next season when Konerko leaves thats 8M save next Everett will be gone next season thats another 4 M save. Frank might be gone so that is another 8-10M save.. Thats 20M for KW to spend next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:37 AM) We would have money too spend next season when Konerko leaves thats 8M save next Everett will be gone next season thats another 4 M save. Frank might be gone so that is another 8-10M save.. Thats 20M for KW to spend next year Keep Konerko, Keep Thomas!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Helton is so much better than PK. The guy is about 340 lifetime hitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I agree with you I would love to see Todd Helton on the southside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Helton is 32 Konerko is 29 Helton makes more money more then Konerko! The last thing i want to have is an overpaid vetran who is past his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 PK lifetime stats 276Avg 187 Hr's 639 Rbi's 4 Sb's TH lifetime stats 334Avg 257Hr's 862Rbis's 31 Sb's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 How can you say Helton is past his prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) Helton is 32 Konerko is 29 Helton makes more money more then Konerko! The last thing i want to have is an overpaid vetran who is past his prime. well 3 years and about 50 points difference in average. if there was any way this could happen, it would be great. but Helton doesn't want to go anywhere, he wants to win in Colorado. and the money argument sucks, if we spend an extra $10M and win more, why not do it? too bad Helton's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:49 AM) PK lifetime stats 276Avg 187 Hr's 639 Rbi's 4 Sb's TH lifetime stats 334Avg 257Hr's 862Rbis's 31 Sb's 2004 pk avg=.277 rbi=96 hr=41 helton avg=.341 rbi=96 hr=32 Who played in Coors? This year Paulie had 11 more homeruns then Helton and 21 more rbi's and paulie hase been struggling. All Helton is is an overpaid old ventran who is past his prime. If I were KW I would give Konerko a 3 year contract after this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 If I remember correctly US Celluar had more homeruns last year than Coors did... Plus alot of Helton hits are mostly doubles... He is also a better defensive player.. PK has no range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:57 AM) If I remember correctly US Celluar had more homeruns last year than Coors did... What team played at Coors and what team played at Comiskey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 If you asked all the GMS in baseball who they rather have I bet my house on it they would rather have Helton over PK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 10:00 AM) If you asked all the GMS in baseball who they rather have I bet my house on it they would rather have Helton over PK Age is big deal nowadays. Go have a look at the yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:54 AM) 2004 pk avg=.277 rbi=96 hr=41 helton avg=.341 rbi=96 hr=32 Who played in Coors? This year Paulie had 11 more homeruns then Helton and 21 more rbi's and paulie hase been struggling. All Helton is is an overpaid old ventran who is past his prime. If I were KW I would give Konerko a 3 year contract after this year. last year Helton hit .326 on the road, and the past 3 years Helton's away average is .310, so there goes the Coors argument. he's also a gold-glove quality first baseman. Helton has nobody in his lineup to drive in, plus he's been struggling. so Helton is not an overpaid old veteran past his prime. he's also not coming to Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(AirScott @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) last year Helton hit .326 on the road, and the past 3 years Helton's away average is .310, so there goes the Coors argument. he's also a gold-glove quality first baseman. Helton has nobody in his lineup to drive in, plus he's been struggling. so Helton is not an overpaid old veteran past his prime. he's also not coming to Chicago. Im talking about homeruns. Helton and Konerko are differnt types of baseball hitters. Helton hits for average and Konerko hits for power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 There is no doubt in my mind that Helton is a better player. I would rather have Konerko because Helton is older and isnt going to last a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 last 4 seasons PK has 103 Hr's TH has 101 Hr's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 This thread shoulda been named Wet Todd Helton Dream so I could've ignored it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) He makes a Gazillion dollars. to be exact, eleventy billion dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I don't think you have any idea how BIG a contract Todd Helton has. Prior to the 2001 season he signed a $151M/11 yr deal with the Rockies. The annual avg of that deal is $13.72M. His salary in the 5th yr of this deal is $12.6M. Since the good majority of these mega deals are back loaded it's likely that after this year there still remains $90M/6 yr left to pay. That's $15M/yr or 20% of this team's payroll. No thank you. $11M might be reasonable. If the Rockies are willing to eat $24M on the contract then ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 08:46 AM) Helton is 32 Konerko is 29 Helton makes more money more then Konerko! The last thing i want to have is an overpaid vetran who is past his prime. I don't believe that Helton is overpaid. He deserves everything he gets. Even though he might have the Coors effect to his advantage 82 games a year, he is still one damn good hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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