jackie hayes Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) As for Chavez, I highly doubt he's getting moved at this point. They're really starting to play well, and they did commit an awful lot of money to him. Crede and B-Mac sounds a little light anyways. Can someone explain why exactly BB would be looking to unload Chavez? He's signed for what, 5 more years? For the entire prime of his career. I keep hearing that the A's are rebuilding as a reason to trade Chavez. Even accepting that premise (which I don't), it doesn't take 6 years to rebuild, especially when you have so much good young pitching. (I'm not saying they've got Mulder and Hudson II, but Harden is REALLY good, and Haren's pitching well. Blanton's recovering from the bad start. That's a nice foundation.) Why on earth would anyone trade one of the best hitting, best fielding players in the major leagues, who's signed at a reasonable price, who won't leave the team for many, many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I believe the White Sox should pursue Pettite then. He just seems to win in the playoffs and always give quality starts. He's a vet and I'm pretty sure he would welcome a trade to the best team in baseball. Also, he's a good personality and I don't see him clashing with anyone on the team. Thoughts? I say this because I don't think Burnett or Schmidt are realistic options and Lilly shouldn't be a realistic option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 But while talking in Colorado recently about faulty trade possibilities, Williams sounded as if he had at least explored the Chavez avenue. "[Chavez] is not on the block. And trust me, I know that," Williams said at the time. "Trust me." This excerpt is from article on whitesox.com .... no chavez.... I say good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Everyone in baseball knows the White sox have a shot at going to the big game, if one of the big fish are approached and they've got a clause in thier contract, they'll come. Say, Andy or Roy....We're thinking about sending you to a team that with your help is a shoe in for the world series, it's a three month loan so think about it....all those dudes want rings. I think its a pretty easy move on thier part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:05 PM) Everyone in baseball knows the White sox have a shot at going to the big game, if one of the big fish are approached and they've got a clause in thier contract, they'll come. Say, Andy or Roy....We're thinking about sending you to a team that with your help is a shoe in for the world series, it's a three month loan so think about it....all those dudes want rings. I think its a pretty easy move on thier part. you'd think so, but remember Rafael Palmeiro last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 refresh my memory will palmero.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) refresh my memory will palmero.......... Rafeal Palmero turned down a trade to the Cubs because he was comfortable where he was on a s***ty team. He had a chance to go to the playoffs and maybe even the WS on the Cubs but he thought it was more important to get paid and have no playoff expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Hey guys! I heard a rumor that we might be interested in trading for Eric Chavez, the 3B from Oakland. He had a tough start to the season, but he's really turned it on latley and his defense is something else! \newbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I hope people just stop with the 3rd base trades. Crede is going to give you consistant numbers 20-30 HRs and some RBI's and a sick defensive glove. I'd rather keep him and have him take peoples runs away then get some guy who'll cost a bajillion dollars and not much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) I hope people just stop with the 3rd base trades. Crede is going to give you consistant numbers 20-30 HRs and some RBI's and a sick defensive glove. I'd rather keep him and have him take peoples runs away then get some guy who'll cost a bajillion dollars and not much better. If you're talking about Chavez he does cost a "bajillion dollars" but he is much better than Crede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Last night I was looking at their stats and Chavez doesn't seem to be much better, well to me at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Last night I was looking at their stats and Chavez doesn't seem to be much better, well to me at least I'm assuming you looked at this seasons stats and not career stats because it's not even close. Chavez is having a down year seeing how he's been hovering around .240 all season, however he's batting .327 in June and has his average up to .270. Chavez is much better than Crede. NOTE: this post is not an endorssment for trading for Chavez. Edited July 1, 2005 by Kalapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Last night I was looking at their stats and Chavez doesn't seem to be much better, well to me at least Take a look at the stats again. Chavez is a middle of the order hitter. Crede is an 8 or 9 hitter. Plus Chavez has 5 gold gloves. Chavez- 45 runs, 11 homers, 44 RBI, .272 average, .332 OBP Crede- 30, 10, 32, .239, .298 And Chavez plays in an extreme pitchers' park in a much weaker lineup. Edited July 1, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Oh, I know in years past he's been awesome and robbed us numerous times of hits. I'm a simply speakin on right now, this year. Getting a dude on a down year or hoping next year he's amazing does nothing for us at this moment. That's not saying he couldn't breakout and destroy the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Chavez would be awsome. Lefty with good power and the ability to hit for average. Gold Glover at 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) Oh, I know in years past he's been awesome and robbed us numerous times of hits. I'm a simply speakin on right now, this year. Getting a dude on a down year or hoping next year he's amazing does nothing for us at this moment. That's not saying he couldn't breakout and destroy the ball Check his late May/June stats. He's currently exploding and having a very good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) Check his late May/June stats. He's currently exploding and having a very good season. Please Mr Williams make us a better team. So we dont become the 2001 Mariners as the team with the best record in baseball but do not get to the world series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) Chavez would be awsome. Lefty with good power and the ability to hit for average. Gold Glover at 3rd. It'd be awfully costly. I was torn when the rumor came up while he was sucking, but I'm liking it now more. I figured he'd turn it around, but he did it faster than I expected. I'd be fine with getting him and letting Paulie walk to compensate for his salary. I think it'll take more than Crede and B-Mac though. Also, as I said, I highly doubt he is going anywhere at this point. Edited July 1, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:28 PM) If you're talking about Chavez he does cost a "bajillion dollars" but he is much better than Crede. Does his contract say bajillion dollars?? Anyways, Chavez isn't getting moved now with Oakland playing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) Does his contract say bajillion dollars?? Anyways, Chavez isn' t getting moved now with Oakland playing so well. We need to sweep them twice now. Put a nice hurting on them so bean rethinks his lets stand pat thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:47 PM) Does his contract say bajillion dollars?? Anyways, Chavez isn't getting moved now with Oakland playing so well. I personally would never use the terminology "bajillion dollars" note the quotation marks in the post, it was a quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Eric Chavez: G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 2005 78 305 45 83 18 1 11 44 136 28 64 1 0 .332 .446 .272 He's already having a damn good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 you guys are so picky, I said bajillion and everyone is all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:54 PM) you guys are so picky, I said bajillion and everyone is all over it Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) Eric Chavez: G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 2005 78 305 45 83 18 1 11 44 136 28 64 1 0 .332 .446 .272 He's already having a damn good season. That's a damn good season? :puke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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