Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 ESPN1000 just reported that Mike Stanton signed or will sign with the Nationals today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) ESPN1000 just reported that Mike Stanton signed or will sign with the Nationals today I would have liked to have him on the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 12:54 PM) I would have liked to have him on the Sox. that makes 2 of us. but then again, Stanton has been pretty bad this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) that makes 2 of us. but then again, Stanton has been pretty bad this year Yeah his high era is nothing special to want but he would have been nice insurance. Put it this way, with Marte out, Stanton > Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 What? El Duque has hit 90 one time that i can recall. He has been 80-87 with his fastball most of the time, and he hasnt been able to spot his changeup, curve or slider, resulting in his 2 and 4 seamers getting crushed. I like El Duque, but he has not shown much this season (durability and recent performance) to warrant my undying faith in him during the second half. If he is shipped to the bully because a trade is made, I will not cry about it, thats for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And despite that 2005 weakness he is still sporting 7W, 2L, in 11GS. Do you now many pitchers would kill for a record like that after 11 starts? First 5GS, 3W, 1L 2.70E, 30IP, 1.63WHIP - there weren't too many complaints then. Next 3GS, 2W, 0L 6.19E, 16IP, 1.69WHIP - signs of something wrong Next 3GS, 2W, 1L 7.56E, 17IP, 1.56WHIP - signs of it getting worse Yet even when he was laboring through undisclosed pain he still managed to post a 4-1 record. Who is more likely to go 7-2 over his next 11 starts: El Duque, Burnett, or Schmidt? El Duque. It might be ugly but he wins far more often than he losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Yeah his high era is nothing special to want but he would have been nice insurance. Put it this way, with Marte out, Stanton > Walker. Yeah, but frighteningly, it's not Stanton>>>>>>Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) Yeah, but frighteningly, it's not Stanton>>>>>>Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) And despite that 2005 weakness he is still sporting 7W, 2L, in 11GS. Do you now many pitchers would kill for a record like that after 11 starts? First 5GS, 3W, 1L 2.70E, 30IP, 1.63WHIP - there weren't too many complaints then. Next 3GS, 2W, 0L 6.19E, 16IP, 1.69WHIP - signs of something wrong Next 3GS, 2W, 1L 7.56E, 17IP, 1.56WHIP - signs of it getting worse Yet even when he was laboring through undisclosed pain he still managed to post a 4-1 record. Who is more likely to go 7-2 over his next 11 starts: El Duque, Burnett, or Schmidt? El Duque. It might be ugly but he wins far more often than he losses. It's called luck. he was getting an assload of run support that any pitcher would cream of. To go 4-1 with a combined ERA of 6.85 over a 6 game stretch is just damn lucky. that is all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Not only that, but he was killing our bullpen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) Who is more likely to go 7-2 over his next 11 starts: El Duque, Burnett, or Schmidt? El Duque. It might be ugly but he wins far more often than he losses. I cannot disagree with this more. Im not going to start a numbers discussion, I will just state that I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Yeah, but frighteningly, it's not Stanton>>>>>>Walker. Actually it's Stanton 8===D ~ ~ ~ Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 02:15 PM) I cannot disagree with this more. Im not going to start a numbers discussion, I will just state that I disagree. You can't beat Juggs in a numebrs discussion. He will simply make up stats that are all too real to devour you in an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) And despite that 2005 weakness he is still sporting 7W, 2L, in 11GS. Do you now many pitchers would kill for a record like that after 11 starts? I know your a big stat guy and all, but cmon man... everyone knows that the W stat is the least telling of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 A.J. Burnett, Marlins His last few starts have been erratic, but he's mowing down hitters and intriguing a lot of clubs. He's a free agent after the season, so the Marlins figure they're better off getting something for a quality pitcher -- when healthy -- who will price himself out of their budget next year. Potential Suitors: White Sox, Orioles, Yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) A.J. Burnett, Marlins His last few starts have been erratic, but he's mowing down hitters and intriguing a lot of clubs. He's a free agent after the season, so the Marlins figure they're better off getting something for a quality pitcher -- when healthy -- who will price himself out of their budget next year. Potential Suitors: White Sox, Orioles, Yankees I wonder how many more times this will be posted today in a similar form? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) I wonder how many more times this will be posted today in a similar form? lol My guess is 8,763.2 It's just a guestimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I hope we can get Burnett or another great pitcher real soon. getting tired of all these rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:20 PM) My guess is 8,763.2 It's just a guestimate. .2 = A.J. Burnett, Marlins His last few starts have been ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) .2 = A.J. Burnett, Marlins His last few starts have been ..... yeah, but he's still the best option out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Damn it, KW better make a move today or tomorrow. Without any games on, I have nothing at all to talk about all day long at work. Get your ass in gear, KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Damn it, KW better make a move today or tomorrow. Without any games on, I have nothing at all to talk about all day long at work. Get your ass in gear, KW. Im with you Milkman, the suspension is killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 02:33 PM) Im with you Milkman, the suspension is killing me. Edited July 13, 2005 by knightni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Do you guys think a trade will happen very soon? I do. Who will be the 4 starters vs the tribe? THey said el-duque won't pitch vs the tribe. Are his shoulder problems worse than we think? And if it is- KW should be on high alert to get a starter ASAP. If the Marlins want Marte, thats fine- do what it takes to get Burnett over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 13, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Im with you Milkman, the suspension is killing me. Smokin' in the boys' room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 i sure hope a deal is coming soon but who knows with kw. he is known to make a deal or two well before the deadline so heres to hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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