Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) I believe that the Day trade would be a trade that KW will make to help satisfy SF's interest in two ML ready SPs for Schmidt. But, that saying... If Day pitches well for the Sox, KW might not deal him. that's what i said 3 pages ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) Well, they were saying ealrier in the week that a trade might be close. But wit hall these different rumors, it might just be a smokescreen. But, for some strange reason, if the 3-way was to go thru, I just get the feeling that KW would keep Day. I dont't know why. I think things are really up in the air at this point. Having seen McCarthy pitch both in the minors and spring training, I really think Kenny wants to hold onto him. Now, some might say, "duh." If this was anyone else but McCarthy generating such a buzz from within the organization, I think this move would have been done already. It really appears Kenny wants to hold onto Brandon and if it means going out and trading for Day in order to do so, that might be exactly what he's doing. That said, if McCarthy isn't the young arm traded, who's it going to be? Even if it is Day, there's going to have to be someone else and who in their right mind is going to want to take on one of the Cubans? Would these be our options with Day on board? Option #1 Day is acquired via prospects or a Harris/Perez/Vizcaino type and kept with the White Sox organization for a fifth starters' role until the playoffs. Option #2 Day is acquired via prospects or a Harris/Perez/Vizcaino type and dealt with someone like McCarthy for the BIG-NAME SP. Option #3 Day is acquired via prospects or a Harris/Perez/Vizcaino type and dealt with a lesser-known or less-coveted prospect for a middle-of-the-road SP like Lilly, Kennedy, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Option #3 Day is acquired via prospects or a Harris/Perez/Vizcaino type and dealt with a lesser-known or less-coveted prospect for a middle-of-the-road SP like Lilly, Kennedy, etc. Day>>>Lilly or Kennedy in overall talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) Day>>>Lilly or Kennedy in overall talent. I agree, just trying to weigh some of the alleged options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I think Kennedy > Day > Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Don't wanna read the whole thread; is there anything to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) Don't wanna read the whole thread; is there anything to this? Seems to be just speculation so far and no moves are imminent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 What prospects would the Sox have to give up though? Colorado will be getting the Sox prospects and that will cost them more than just going out and getting Zach Day because the Colorado will be looking for prospects they would get for Preston Wilson from the Sox. I would assume they would want some good prospects. Just a prediction on how this would play out: Colorado Gets: OF Chris Young LHP Ryan Rodriguez Nationals Get: OF Preston Wilson White Sox Get: RHP Zach Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Colorado Gets: OF Chris Young Nooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(3E8 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Nooooooo ^^^^^^^^^^^^ If we deal Chris Young for Day someone will die. Edited July 9, 2005 by WHarris1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) What prospects would the Sox have to give up though? Colorado will be getting the Sox prospects and that will cost them more than just going out and getting Zach Day because the Colorado will be looking for prospects they would get for Preston Wilson from the Sox. I would assume they would want some good prospects. Just a prediction on how this would play out: Colorado Gets: OF Chris Young LHP Ryan Rodriguez Nationals Get: OF Preston Wilson White Sox Get: RHP Zach Day IIRC, the 40 man roster is full. Are either Young or Rodriguez on the 40 man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ If we deal Chris Young for Day someone will die. the problem is that they are technicly trading for Preston Wilson. They are giving up the prospects for him at least. Wait is J.J. Davis still in the trade to Rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) the problem is that they are technicly trading for Preston Wilson. They are giving up the prospects for him at least. Wait is J.J. Davis still in the trade to Rockies. What publication is this story coming from anyway? Its not in any Denver paper, and I haven't seen it in the Washington DC papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) What publication is this story coming from anyway? Its not in any Denver paper, and I haven't seen it in the Washington DC papers. I believe its in the Washington Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 According to the Washington Post, the White Sox might get involved in a deal that would see Colorado OF Preston Wilson heading to the Nationals. Chicago could get Washington P Zach Day, and would ship prospects and money to Colorado this was on CBS Sportsline in the rumor section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I wonder if Zach Day then will be packaged to another team for a legit starter, so the Sox can hold on to McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) According to the Washington Post, the White Sox might get involved in a deal that would see Colorado OF Preston Wilson heading to the Nationals. Chicago could get Washington P Zach Day, and would ship prospects and money to Colorado this was on CBS Sportsline in the rumor section OK, I see it there. I think if the Sox got Day, he would be for someone else. AJ Burnett, or Jason Schmidt, or Guardado would be my guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 So... Colorado loses Wilson's huge deal AND gets money? That makes no sense. I suppose that the money is going to Washington to help with the contract, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:05 PM) OK, I see it there. I think if the Sox got Day, he would be for someone else. AJ Burnett, or Jason Schmidt, or Guardado would be my guesses. That's the popular school of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ If we deal Chris Young for Day someone will die. Yes, Kenny, at the hand of The Cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) So... Colorado loses Wilson's huge deal AND gets money? That makes no sense. I suppose that the money is going to Washington to help with the contract, but still... They would still be on the hook for part of Wilson's contract. The money going their way would be to defray some of that cost. The other problem with this trade is Wilson has to OK it, and it doesn't seem like he's too giddy about the idea. I would be shocked if KW kept Day, or if he did El Duque or Contreras would be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 If C Young goes in any deal it will be for a top notch pitcher like Schmidt or Burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 If C Young goes in any deal it will be for a top notch pitcher like Schmidt or Burnett <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Could be, but I think this board has a natural and somewhat likeable tendancy to overrate Chris Young and other prospects. Not raining on a parade here but Chris Young strikes out a lot and a big hole in the swing tends to get exploited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 02:08 PM) They would still be on the hook for part of Wilson's contract. The money going their way would be to defray some of that cost. The other problem with this trade is Wilson has to OK it, and it doesn't seem like he's too giddy about the idea. I would be shocked if KW kept Day, or if he did El Duque or Contreras would be gone. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?ac...ndpost&p=769068 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...98entry769198 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 If Wilson won't go to the first place Nats, then he's a turd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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