Awful series by Ozzie

[fathom]

No one deserves more blame for this series debacle than Ozzie. Between playing Willie on Friday night, not doing the right thing by switching Ozuna and Uribe in the infield, and his just pathetic game today, Ozzie had just a horses*** series. Someone on the bench needs to step in and tell him some of the things he's doing during a game are awful:

 

- Cotts should have never been left in to face Melhuse. We gave the A's that f***ing run.

- Why do you pitch to Swisher with the open base?

[Punch and Judy Garland]

I didn't see enough of the series to say much but what was with having Willie pinch run for Carl, AFTER you had Carl bunted over to second. If you want to pinch run, do it right away. Maybe we could have had Willie steal and then get sacrificed over to have one out and a man on third. Kind of a brain cramp there in my opinion.

[SoxFan562004]

Willie should have pinch run for Carl when he got on 1st, then tried to steal. He also should have pinch hit Dye for Willie and left Paulie in there to run, Willie has shown he can't bunt or move runners along

[Brian]

Yeah, I hated how Ozzie walked all those guys and those errors at 3B were his fault as well.

[Gene Honda Civic]

I didn't see enough of the series to say much but what was with having Willie pinch run for Carl, AFTER you had Carl bunted over to second. If you want to pinch run, do it right away. Maybe we could have had Willie steal and then get sacrificed over to have one out and a man on third. Kind of a brain cramp there in my opinion.

Correct. This, and not removing Cotts (Something is wrong there. Not only was his control not there. He didn't top 90 MPH. Part of his improvement this season is because he's added about 2MPH to his fastball, to 91-93MPH. I hope he's not hurt or something. There's three days off at the right time though, I suppose.) when he looked terrible were really the only boneheaded moves I saw.

[fathom]

Yeah, I hated how Ozzie walked all those guys and those errors at 3B were his fault as well.

 

He should have known by now Ozuna can't play 3B. He should put Uribe at 3b, and Ozuna at SS.

[Brian]

He should have known by now Ozuna can't play 3B.  He should put Uribe at 3b, and Ozuna at SS.

 

I'll give you that.

[Milkman delivers]

There were two good things in this game, exactly two. PK finally did something besides pull the ball every single time. That made me happy. And Politte did his thing again.

 

Now here are the bad things:

 

Ozzie - Learn how to f***ing manage better. Ozuna is N O T a 3B.

Ozuna - You're not a 3B, but you look like a 12-year-old girl out there. You can't possibly be that bad.

Freddy - Nothing like giving up a run every single inning, huh?

Hermanson - Cannot pitch more than 1 inning, or else he gets bombed.

Cotts - No control today, it happens. He shouldn't have been in there so long with his terrible control.

Willie - See ya in Charlotte. You really are dumb.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Yeah, I hated how Ozzie walked all those guys and those errors at 3B were his fault as well.

 

How dare he play the players he has...

 

Their were some questionable moves, but blaming the entire sweep on him is a bit too much, in my opinion.

[SoxFan562004]

Willie - See ya in Charlotte.  You really are dumb.

Yeah, after this series, I think Timo got his head off the chopping block in my book. Willie looked like a clown in his first two AB's on Friday and in his bunt attempt today. He seems overmatched at the plate right now, with zero chance of getting a hit. When Gload comes back Willie has to go, if Crede needs days off put Juan at 3b and Pablo at SS. Gload can back-up PK. I think Kenny needs to get another solid bench player though.

[Guest JimH]

I would not be moving my starting SS around to other positions. That's why you have a backup infielder. If Ozuna is that bad at 3B they need a different backup IF plain and simple.

 

The worst move was leaving Cotts in to face Melhuse. That made zero sense.

 

Oh by the way, seeing as Willie Harris can't seem to get a bunt down at key times, I would say they need a better player there too.

[Milkman delivers]

There were two good things in this game, exactly two.  PK finally did something besides pull the ball every single time.  That made me happy.  And Politte did his thing again.

 

Now here are the bad things:

 

Ozzie - Learn how to f***ing manage better.  Ozuna is N O T a 3B.

Ozuna - You're not a 3B, but you look like a 12-year-old girl out there.  You can't possibly be that bad.

Freddy - Nothing like giving up a run every single inning, huh?

Hermanson - Cannot pitch more than 1 inning, or else he gets bombed.

Cotts - No control today, it happens.  He shouldn't have been in there so long with his terrible control.

Willie - See ya in Charlotte.  You really are dumb.

 

I forgot:

 

Rowand - Stick that needle back in your ass, you need it.

Widger - No magic left.

Vizcaino - Nothing's changed.

Edited July 10, 2005 by Milkman delivers

[Brian]

The worst move was leaving Cotts in to face Melhuse.  That made zero sense.

 

 

One of the announcers, Ronney, Farmer, DJ, or Hawk commented how Melhuse was batting .100 as a lefty. Oz didn't know?

[Bubba Philips]

I'll give you that.

WAS there a reason Crede, and dye didn't play.. I would've put my best team on the field to win not the final game but the series. I was pleasantly surprized by TImo getting a hit and Konerko finally showing why he's an all star.. I don't get taking out the most effective pitcher Politte after doing his job he can go longer than an inning and a 1/3.. All star Homework for Ozzie: We need someone I don't care who that can strike out the opponents Cotts, Viscaiano, and the rest of the staff get 2 strikes on someone and can't get the job done. Ask the whitesox hitters what bad pitches and pitches they swing badly at so they can throw similar pitches to our opponents in the second half. Otherwise good luck

[BigSqwert]

I forgot:

 

Rowand - Stick that needle back in your ass, you need it.

Widger - No magic left.

Vizcaino - Nothing's changed.

 

Is it me or is Aaron's numbers among the lowest among center fielders in the league? Would be nice to get a little more production. I will give him props for his defense though.

[BigSqwert]

WAS  there a reason Crede, and dye didn't play.. I would've put my best team on the field to win not the final game but the series.  I was pleasantly surprized by TImo getting a hit and Konerko finally showing why he's an all star.. I don't get taking out the most effective pitcher Politte after doing his job he can go longer than an inning and a 1/3..  All star Homework for Ozzie:  We need someone I don't care who that can strike out the opponents Cotts, Viscaiano, and the rest of the staff  get 2 strikes on someone and can't get the job done.  Ask the whitesox hitters what bad pitches and pitches they swing badly at so they can throw similar pitches to our opponents in the second half.  Otherwise good luck

 

Apparently Crede has soreness in his back. He blows anyway. I still have my Eric Chavez voodoo shrine going. If I keep praying and chanting maybe he will come.

Edited July 10, 2005 by BigSqwert

[SoxFan562004]

Apparently Crede has soreness in his back.  He blows anyway.  I still have my Eric Chavez voodoo shrine going.  If I keep praying and chanting maybe he will come.

Oakland is like 5 out of the wild card right now and on a hot streak, unless they tank in the next 3 weeks, they may be buying, not selling

[witesoxfan]

Apparently Crede has soreness in his back.  He blows anyway. I still have my Eric Chavez voodoo shrine going.  If I keep praying and chanting maybe he will come.

 

Not with the A's above .500

 

I still think they are going to win the division...the Angels are not incredibly strong, and the Rangers pitching staff will almost always falter in the August heat.

[Dick Allen]

I just came back from the game, and I'll tell you what I found to be shocking. Jason Kendall had 2 dinks to rightfield drop again today. Carl Everett positions himself for Jason Kendall in exactly the same spot he plays for Eric Chavez. That's ridiculous. Vizcaino had the dreaded lead off walk, and that kills you almost every single time. Harris fails to advance the runner, but it really didn't matter as Rowand pops up to the firstbaseman on the first pitch.

[Milkman delivers]

I just came back from the game, and I'll tell you what I found to be shocking. Jason Kendall had 2 dinks to rightfield drop again today. Carl Everett positions himself for Jason Kendall in exactly the same spot he plays for Eric Chavez. That's ridiculous. Vizcaino had the dreaded lead off walk, and that kills you almost every single time. Harris fails to advance the runner, but it really didn't matter as Rowand pops up to the firstbaseman on the first pitch.

 

I was there, too. As soon as Ozuna screwed up in the 11th again, I felt like it was over. When Harris K'd in the bottom of the 11th, I knew it was over. It's a damn shame, too, because I thought Timo's hit was leading to the end. That game sucked.

[quickman]

I would not be moving my starting SS around to other positions.  That's why you have a backup infielder.  If Ozuna is that bad at 3B they need a different backup IF plain and simple.

 

The worst move was leaving Cotts in to face Melhuse.  That made zero sense.

 

Oh by the way, seeing as Willie Harris can't seem to get a bunt down at key times, I would say they need a better player there too.

 

this is dead on, why in the world do you not bring politte in after you intentially walk the bases loaded. politte was ready. Why is cotts facing him? this made no sense. I also did not like the idea of pitching to swisher at the end of the game, with one out and 2nd and third. I take my chances with scuturo despite his series being good. In addition, why is Joey cora sending frank thomas home on one leg? This made no sense to me.

 

Harris should have been sent down after the game.

[Guest JimH]

this is dead on, why in the world do you not bring politte in after you intentially walk the bases loaded. politte was ready. Why is cotts facing him? this made no sense. I also did not like the idea of pitching to swisher at the end of the game, with one out and 2nd and third. I take my chances with scuturo despite his series being good. In addition, why is Joey cora sending frank thomas home on one leg? This made no sense to me.

 

Harris should have been sent down after the game.

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Well, I hope the bakery was better than the game.

 

I too would have taken my chances with Scutaro in that situation.

 

On the Frank out at home situation, one mistake was compounded by another. Thomas got a terrible jump from 2nd with two outs, and all it took was a decent throw by the LF, guess what, he made a decent throw.

 

Tons of mental errors all around today. You should have heard DJ on the tv when Harris was attempting to bunt ... "it looks like Willie is trying to bunt to third. You absolutely do NOT bunt to third base with Chavez 40 feet away, it's that simple." Added Hawk, "Yup, it looks like he's trying to bunt to third."

[VAfan]

No one deserves more blame for this series debacle than Ozzie.  Between playing Willie on Friday night, not doing the right thing by switching Ozuna and Uribe in the infield, and his just pathetic game today, Ozzie had just a horses*** series.  Someone on the bench needs to step in and tell him some of the things he's doing during a game are awful:

 

- Cotts should have never been left in to face Melhuse.  We gave the A's that f***ing run.

- Why do you pitch to Swisher with the open base?

 

To me that 7th run for the A's was the key to the ballgame. There is no point in walking Scaturo to load the bases either. Just bring in Politte for the out.

 

Also, why could Kotsay get back to the wall for Iguchi's late drive, but Rowand couldn't protecting a 5-4 Sox lead. It is hard to criticize Rowand's fielding, but that Johnson double that put them ahead should have been a long out.

 

Still, I think Ozzie made the wrong moves to cost the game. It was nice to see us battling, anyway.

 

In addition to Gload, El Duque, and Marte coming back, I'd like to see some more help via a trade.

[Punch and Judy Garland]

who was the former outfielder Hawk was rippign today? He said 4-5 years ago. Was it Liefer?

[Guest JimH]

Also, why could Kotsay get back to the wall for Iguchi's late drive, but Rowand couldn't protecting a 5-4 Sox lead.  It is hard to criticize Rowand's fielding, but that Johnson double that put them ahead should have been a long out. 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

This is a very fair point.

 

They made the plays, we did not. That was a huge turning point. As you correctly state it's very hard to nitpick at Rowand's fielding but to be fair he did not look good on that play, and it was a huge play.