NBA Salaries

[Steve9347]

These things are out of hand. Bobby Simms just got 47 million dollars. Eddy Curry will get 800 billion dollars on that scale.

[Soxfest]

This is one of many reason I do not folow NBA like i used to this type of money for role players is why game is the way it is now, this is beyond belief.

[AirScott]

at least Bobby Simmons is more of a self-less player that always does whats good for the team. the way it is in the NBA is no matter what type of player you are, being 6'10'' guaruntees you $7 million per season, and Shawn Bradley somehow stuck around for 12 years with no skills to speak of. the scary thing is, what does that guaruntee Curry, who's 6'10'' and has skills. it's ironic though, because I've always said the one thing he lacks is heart.

[hammerhead johnson]

it's ironic though, because I've always said the one thing he lacks is heart.

 

Are you trying to tell me that "Curry lacking heart" is a genuine insight on your part? I'd imagine that you have to be a rocket scientist to notice these things? And what's so ironic about it?

Edited July 14, 2005 by hammerhead johnson

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Well, with allan houston making 18 million a year, keith van horn at 14 mill, brian grant 13 mill, tim thomas 13, antonio davis getting 13 mill from the Bulls, and damon stoudamire about 12 million, I'm not so sure that Bobby Simmons (yes, a fellow DePaul man ), coming off a year in which he emerged as a solid player with 16 and a half points per, 6 boards, and 44% from beyond the arc is much of a stretch for getting about 9.4 mill per year.

 

Although it was higher than I expected, I still congratulate a Chicago guy for going out and earning it.

[YASNY]

Are you trying to tell me that "Curry lacking heart" is a genuine insight on your part?  I'd imagine that you have to be a rocket scientist to notice these things?  And what's so ironic about it?

 

I'd say the reference to irony is due to the fact that his heart is what's causing the health issues.

[wsox08]

Can anyone spare some change for a poor little lad?

[Spod=Ratings]

Baksetball contracts are very crazy its getting out of hand,then again most major sports contracts can be crazy.....i wanted to get my 900th post.... only 432473fgvc4634rgf347g444444445 away from Southsider

Edited July 14, 2005 by Spod=Ratings

[AirScott]

Are you trying to tell me that "Curry lacking heart" is a genuine insight on your part?  I'd imagine that you have to be a rocket scientist to notice these things?  And what's so ironic about it?

 

 

I'd say the reference to irony is due to the fact that his heart is what's causing the health issues.

well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist, but you do have to be able to understand simple irony. and I have been saying that for a while, as he could be so much better than he is, but doesn't seem to put forth the effort.

[CanOfCorn]

at least Bobby Simmons is more of a self-less player that always does whats good for the team.  the way it is in the NBA is no matter what type of player you are, being 6'10'' guaruntees you $7 million per season, and Shawn Bradley somehow stuck around for 12 years with no skills to speak of.  the scary thing is, what does that guaruntee Curry, who's 6'10'' and has skills.  it's ironic though, because I've always said the one thing he lacks is heart.

 

You can't teach height.

[hammerhead johnson]

well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist, but you do have to be able to understand simple irony.  and I have been saying that for a while, as he could be so much better than he is, but doesn't seem to put forth the effort.

 

Lacking heart = bad work ethic, no passion

 

Saying that someone lacks heart before information comes out that they have actual health issues with their heart is not irony. It's f***ing stupid. Work ethic has nothing to do with it.

 

I've been saying that this guy doesn't work hard all along, and then I find out that he has health issues with his heart. How ironic!!!!!

 

It's also amusing that you think you have some special insight into Curry's work ethic. It's all right there to see for anyone who watches the games. It couldn't be more obvious, it's like me uttering this: I've been saying all along that the grass is green. Excuse me while I pat myself on the back.

Edited July 14, 2005 by hammerhead johnson

[hammerhead johnson]

I'd say the reference to irony is due to the fact that his heart is what's causing the health issues.

 

Lacking heart is just another way of saying that this guy has no balls. It is an expression. Wait, let me repeat that. It is an expression.

 

So, when I find out that Curry had a testicle removed, is it ironic?

 

Of course not.

[hammerhead johnson]

I'm pretty sure I'm biting wite's style here.

 

Irony:

It's like rain on your wedding day

It's a free ride when you've already paid

A traffic jam when you're already late

A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break

It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife

 

Not Irony:

Heart problems when you have no work ethic

 

[SleepyWhiteSox]

I'm pretty sure I'm biting wite's style here.

 

Irony:

It's like rain on your wedding day

It's a free ride when you've already paid

A traffic jam when you're already late

A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break

It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife

 

Not Irony:

Heart problems when you have no work ethic

 

 

You're kidding, right?

 

That song has been criticized before because most of the scenarios she presented were not ironic. Although debatable (you really have to reach and go for situational or possibly Socratic irony), most of that list is almost clearly not irony.

[hammerhead johnson]

You're kidding, right?

 

That song has been criticized before because most of the scenarios she presented were not ironic.  Although debatable (you really have to reach and go for situational or possibly Socratic irony), most of that list is almost clearly not irony.

 

This certainly ain't ironic:

 

"It's the good advice that you just didn't take"

 

It's like, don't rob that liquor store, you might end up in prison. And then, there you are, sitting in county, thinking how ironic it is that your buddy told you not to rob that liquor store.

 

But 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife? Irony. It's a free ride when you've already paid? Irony. Rain on your wedding day? Thin line, I'm leaning towards irony. Non-smoking sign on your cigarette break? Hmmm, I dunno. Traffic jam when you're already late? Well, you left the house late you freaking moron, maybe you'd of been able to burn some time while stuck in traffic if you had any clue how to manage your schedule.

 

There is a thin line between irony and anything but in a lot of instances, and there a a gang of different types of irony, but the Eddy Curry thing is clearly ridiculous.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

There is a thin line between irony and anything but in a lot of instances, and there a a gang of different types of irony, but the Eddy Curry thing is clearly ridiculous.

 

There have been questions about his "heart."

 

He had actual heart problems.

 

See the connection? There is some irony in that, and it's far from ridiculous.

[hammerhead johnson]

There have been questions about his "heart."

 

He had actual heart problems.

 

See the connection?  There is some irony in that, and it's far from ridiculous.

 

Yeah, but saying that he has no heart is an expression. It's the same as saying he has no balls, no work ethic, no passion, no desire, no drive, no motivation, etc. There are so many different ways of saying that a guy just doesn't feel like putting forth an effort. Just because you choose a particular way of saying it ("he has no heart") doesn't mean that it's ironic when it runs out he has actual health concerns with his heart.

 

Of course I see the connection, but it ain't ironic. I think it's ridiculous, but I dunno, maybe it's just me.

 

Point is, irony is a hard word to define, but it's an easy thing to spot. It's like me saying that I post at a s***load of message boards, and I hate soxtalk the most, but I read and post here more than anywhere else.

[AirScott]

I'm pretty sure I'm biting wite's style here.

 

Irony:

It's like rain on your wedding day

It's a free ride when you've already paid

A traffic jam when you're already late

A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break

It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife

 

Not Irony:

Heart problems when you have no work ethic

 

no, it's ironic because for years I've been saying he's got no heart (work ethic), and he's now he's really got a bad heart. I'm not saying they're tied together at all, they probably aren't. people have heart problems for all sorts of reasons, and it's not like he's in terrible shape.

[AirScott]

Lacking heart = bad work ethic, no passion

 

Saying that someone lacks heart before information comes out that they have actual health issues with their heart is not irony.  It's f***ing stupid.  Work ethic has nothing to do with it. 

 

I've been saying that this guy doesn't work hard all along, and then I find out that he has health issues with his heart.  How ironic!!!!! 

 

It's also amusing that you think you have some special insight into Curry's work ethic.  It's all right there to see for anyone who watches the games.  It couldn't be more obvious, it's like me uttering this: I've been saying all along that the grass is green. Excuse me while I pat myself on the back.

I never said I'm some sort of expert because I said he's got no work ethic. I NEVER said I have some special insight into his work ethic. but I have been saying he's lazy, as I'm sure many other people have, and I never even said I was one of the first to say it.

[AirScott]

Lacking heart is just another way of saying that this guy has no balls.  It is an expression.  Wait, let me repeat that.  It is an expression.

 

So, when I find out that Curry had a testicle removed, is it ironic?

 

Of course not.

and why would the fact that it's an expression cancel out the fact that it's irony? there's no reason for that.

[hammerhead johnson]

and why would the fact that it's an expression cancel out the fact that it's irony?  there's no reason for that.

 

As far as I can tell, irony has to be dervied from something at its base, something concrete. Work ethic would be the base for irony, while a phrase like "he has no heart" would simply be a way of saying that he has no work ethic.

 

Remember, the heart is merely a muscle that pumps blood, and it doesn't factor into why a guy would be lazy. It is simply an expression.

 

Now, if Curry were healthy and he somehow managed to average like 12 rebounds per game in the playoffs last year, then THAT would have been ironic considering that his work ethic is s*** (5.2 rebounds per game during the regular season or whatever). Do you see what I'm saying here, or am I on my own planet with this?

[AirScott]

As far as I can tell, irony has to be dervied from something at its base, something concrete.  Work ethic would be the base for irony, while a phrase like "he has no heart" would simply be a way of saying that he has no work ethic.

 

Remember, the heart is merely a muscle that pumps blood, and it doesn't factor into why a guy would be lazy.  It is simply an expression.

 

Now, if Curry were healthy and he somehow managed to average like 12 rebounds per game in the playoffs last year, then THAT would have been ironic considering that his work ethic is s*** (5.2 rebounds per game during the regular season or whatever).  Do you see what I'm saying here, or am I on my own planet with this?

I would think an expression is okay for the base of irony, as everybody knows what the expression means, making it concrete.

 

and if he were to have posted 12 rebound per game in the playoffs, he would have been playing over his head, stepped his game up big time, or both.

[hammerhead johnson]

I would think an expression is okay for the base of irony, as everybody knows what the expression means, making it concrete.

 

Even though the heart has absolutely nothing to do with work ethic?

 

I just can't see the irony there. Oh well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.