southsider2k5 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 1993 All-Star game winning pitcher was Jack McDowell 2000 All-Star game winning pitcher was James Baldwin 2005 All-Star game winning pitcher was Mark Buehrle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 08:48 AM) 1993 All-Star game winning pitcher was Jack McDowell 2000 All-Star game winning pitcher was James Baldwin 2005 All-Star game winning pitcher was Mark Buehrle So, we'll make the playoffs and lose? I'm disturbed recalling that Baldwin was an All-Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Baldwin had an outstanding 1st half in 2000. I think he had 10 or 11 wins by the ASB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 08:53 AM) Baldwin had an outstanding 1st half in 2000. I think he had 10 or 11 wins by the ASB. I know...but in the grand scheme of things, he sucked...he finished that year 14-7...piece of trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 07:53 AM) Baldwin had an outstanding 1st half in 2000. I think he had 10 or 11 wins by the ASB. Our top three pitchers in the first half of 2000 were, in order, Baldwin, Eldred, Sirotka... Due to injury, we started Jim Parque in the playoffs against Seattle. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 08:53 AM) Baldwin had an outstanding 1st half in 2000. I think he had 10 or 11 wins by the ASB. The game that stands out to me was when the Sox strolled into Seattle with Baldwin starting. Rickey Henderson was leading off and Baldwin struck him out on 4 pitches in about 12 seconds. It was the fastest I have ever seen Henderson get rung up. He dominated that game, with El Caballo providing the runs. Too bad his shoulder fell apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 08:56 AM) Our top three pitchers in the first half of 2000 were, in order, Baldwin, Eldred, Sirotka... Due to injury, we started Jim Parque in the playoffs against Seattle. :puke A game in which Parque left too early, if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 07:57 AM) A game in which Parque left too early, if I recall. Parque's shoulder was also hurting. He pitched through pain, had off season surgery and was never heard from again. The 2000 playoff problem (other than all of the hitters hitting pop ups) was no healthy pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Baldwin only won the All-Star game because he gave the lead up and then the AL scored for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 07:55 AM) I know...but in the grand scheme of things, he sucked...he finished that year 14-7...piece of trash "In the grand scheme of things," any pitcher who wins 14 games DEFINITELY is not a piece of trash! Baldwin might be a piece of trash for his career, but he was far away from being that that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(S720 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 09:54 AM) "In the grand scheme of things," any pitcher who wins 14 games DEFINITELY is not a piece of trash! Baldwin might be a piece of trash for his career, but he was far away from being that that year. I hated that guy...I stand by my statement...so he had 1 good half...yaaaa Edited July 14, 2005 by tonyho7476 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 QUOTE(ptatc @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) Parque's shoulder was also hurting. He pitched through pain, had off season surgery and was never heard from again. The 2000 playoff problem (other than all of the hitters hitting pop ups) was no healthy pitchers. Our pitching in those playoffs was fine, it was the hitting that blew! I remember Farmer saying corners better play up cuz he suspects a squeeze on this pitch and whammo... series over!!! Foulke didnt help in Game 1 either frickin John Olerud, Edgar Martinez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 It almost felt like a repeat of the 1993 playoffs. I really hope we get back to our Small/Little/Smart/Ozzie-ball gameplan. Because in the playoffs, I could see Frank, Paulie and Dye going 0-for-20. In the playoffs you need: Sound starting pitching Consistent bullpen Timely hitting Smart baseball Good defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 1993 team lost in the ALCS 2000 team lost in the ALDS 2005 team..... Seems like we are going backwards. What did Early Wynn do in the '59 ASG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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