southsideirish Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I just read over my Sports Weekly and it states that "The White Sox are willing to give up pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy in a trade for the Marlins' A.J. Burnett, but they won't surrender him in a deal for Giants starter Jason Schmidt. The White Sox will move Triple-A outfielder Brian Anderson for Jason Schmidt." "The Giants, according to several general managers, plan to move Schimdt by July 31." "The Mariners are expected to trade outfielder Randy Winn and reliever Ron Villone, but they likely will keep closer Eddie Guardado and outfielder Raul Ibanez." "Closer Billy Wagner wants out if the Phillies drop out of the race." "The Tigers are taking offers for pitcher Jason Johnson and outfielder Rondell White." "The Dodgers are taking offers for left-hander Odalis Perez, who's in the first year of a three-year, $24million deal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYGarland Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) I just read over my Sports Weekly and it states that "The White Sox are willing to give up pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy in a trade for the Marlins' A.J. Burnett, but they won't surrender him in a deal for Giants starter Jason Schmidt. The White Sox will move Triple-A outfielder Brian Anderson for Jason Schmidt." I think JR doesn't want the contracts of both JC and Schmidt, so if we do get Schmidt, look for JC to be moved. IF we could trade McCarthy straight up for Burnett, and keep JC as insurance for El Duque, that would be Awesome! Edited July 20, 2005 by CYGarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) I just read over my Sports Weekly and it states that "The White Sox are willing to give up pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy in a trade for the Marlins' A.J. Burnett, but they won't surrender him in a deal for Giants starter Jason Schmidt. The White Sox will move Triple-A outfielder Brian Anderson for Jason Schmidt." Here's how I read that: Bmac would be expendable because the sox would try to sign AJ to a long term deal. If the sox got Schmidt, then it might only be for the next few months, maybe 1 yr. Then Bmac would be ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) Here's how I read that: Bmac would be expendable because the sox would try to sign AJ to a long term deal. If the sox got Schmidt, then it might only be for the next few months, maybe 1 yr. Then Bmac would be ready That's very insightful. I bet that's actually KW's line of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) Here's how I read that: Bmac would be expendable because the sox would try to sign AJ to a long term deal. If the sox got Schmidt, then it might only be for the next few months, maybe 1 yr. Then Bmac would be ready If they trade for AJ, I want a window to resign him or no deal, I don't want him coming here with no longterm deal. We had the Ozzie factor for FG, for AJ it's going to be 4 at 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) If they trade for AJ, I want a window to resign him or no deal, I don't want him coming here with no longterm deal. We had the Ozzie factor for FG, for AJ it's going to be 4 at 40 If I were the sox i wouldn't trade for AJ in the first place. He'll be on the DL for 2 of the next 4 yrs at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 i say get O. Perez from the Dodgers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) If I were the sox i wouldn't trade for AJ in the first place. He'll be on the DL for 2 of the next 4 yrs at least <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very true. From what I have seen I would give up B-Mac in the Schmidt deal if that lands him for us. If I have to give up B-Mac and Anderson that is fine with me, but I want Vizquel in the deal as well. Contreras, B-Mac, Shingo, Brian Anderson for Schmidt and Vizquel looks nice to me. If they wanted to throw in Hawkins as well that would be fine by me, but I am not sure how they feel about him. If they just wanted to dump some salary off in the deal I can see them doing it and that would be fine by me. I know, I know, where would they fit on the roster? 3 MLB players coming in and only 1 leaving. Well say goodbye to Contreras, Willie, and Timo and say hello to Schmidt, Omar, and Hawkins. Nice staff of (1) Buehrle (2) Garcia (3) Schmidt (4) Garland (5) El Duque Vicaino RH Jenks RH Hawkins RH Cotts LH Politte Righty setup Marte Lefty setup Hermanson Closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) i say get O. Perez from the Dodgers! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I said the same thing before and people here said that the Dodgers weren't looking to trade him because they just signed him during the off season. I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Don't know the particulars but Odalis has had some clubhouse issues over the last month. I did want him instead of Duke before the year though. He hasn't been healthy much this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Not giving up B-Mac in a Schmidt is a good idea at least in my mind, I don't mind giving him up in a Burnett deal on the condition that A.J signs a long - term deal with us ALA Freddy Garcia. But as beck said, if Schmidt leaves at the end of next season, you've got about 3 to 4 cotracts in our rotation will be up, and B-Mac will probably be required to come into one of those roles. I don't mind giving up Brian Anderson for Schmidt at all though however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) I just read over my Sports Weekly and it states that "The White Sox are willing to give up pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy in a trade for the Marlins' A.J. Burnett, but they won't surrender him in a deal for Giants starter Jason Schmidt. The White Sox will move Triple-A outfielder Brian Anderson for Jason Schmidt." "The Giants, according to several general managers, plan to move Schimdt by July 31." "The Mariners are expected to trade outfielder Randy Winn and reliever Ron Villone, but they likely will keep closer Eddie Guardado and outfielder Raul Ibanez." "Closer Billy Wagner wants out if the Phillies drop out of the race." "The Tigers are taking offers for pitcher Jason Johnson and outfielder Rondell White." "The Dodgers are taking offers for left-hander Odalis Perez, who's in the first year of a three-year, $24million deal." good info there southsideirish....ive said it before and i will again id prefer schmidt over burnett, but either is a positive. i mean we are talkin about a guy who would go to NYY, BOS or BAL and be their #2 or #1 in teh case of baltimore coming to the southside and being the 3rd or fourth starter in teh playoffs. wow. thats good. Billy wagner i dont think will get traded, unless philly drops way out. i saw his comments, but the thing is philly is in it, and if they moved him they would want enough major league help to win now. wagner would be huge, but thats not probable. at first i believed KW when he said he wasnt gonna make any major moves at the deadline, but the more i think about it, the more that statement is insane. yes its a sellers market, but last year we were dead even with the twins and KW was talkin about goin deep in the playoffs. how can he not do it this year. he feels he has an obligation to us to go for it and go for it big. while i havent been a big backer of villone, our bullpen has played over their heads this year (politte, cotts, hermie all career years) and jenks is still a ? so a guy like villone or batista would add great depth. KW will do something significant, mark my words. it just makes too little sense for him not to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I think KW will keep exploring possibilities. However, when he made that remark about not foreseeing any big deals, he also said that he didn't want to rape the big club to do so and that is what was being asked for. The market changes as the deadline approaches, so he'll keep an ear open and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) I think KW will keep exploring possibilities. However, when he made that remark about not foreseeing any big deals, he also said that he didn't want to rape the big club to do so and that is what was being asked for. The market changes as the deadline approaches, so he'll keep an ear open and see what happens. One thing about Kenny is you know he's always looking. If something makes sense he'll pull the trigger but he's not going to dismantle the 25 man roster of the best team in baseball, just doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) One thing about Kenny is you know he's always looking. If something makes sense he'll pull the trigger but he's not going to dismantle the 25 man roster of the best team in baseball, just doesn't make any sense. Thought I'd bump this. Per Bruce Levine, Kenny and 3 other scouts were in attendance at wrigley today to watch Schmidt pitch. I didn't watch the game but by numbers he was quite impressive. EDIT: I have no clue why I quoted my old post. Edited July 26, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) Thought I'd bump this. Per Bruce Levine, Kenny and 3 other scouts were in attendance at wrigley today to watch Schmidt pitch. I didn't watch the game but by numbers he was quite impressive. Maybe looking at omar as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) Thought I'd bump this. Per Bruce Levine, Kenny and 3 other scouts were in attendance at wrigley today to watch Schmidt pitch. I didn't watch the game but by numbers he was quite impressive. EDIT: I have no clue why I quoted my old post. Here we go; Jason Schmidt allowed one run in seven innings, but didn't get a decision in tonight's game against the Cubs. He gave up six hits, walked one and struck out five. The run scored on Michael Barrett's homer. Schmidt has turned in seven quality starts in eight tries. Jul. 25 - 11:58 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) Here we go; So wait...he's not washed up? I was mislead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 This is the guy we should be going after.. and Not Burnett.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 08:28 AM) This is the guy we should be going after.. and Not Burnett.. Maybe that was KW's idea all along. Make everyone think he's going after Burnett, then he shows up at a Schmidt game. That guy's a genius, I say. Wouldn't you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I'm guessing KW was looking @ some of the Giants relievers as well as Vizquel. I still think the Giants won't trade Schmidt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I don't think there is any more significance of KW being at the game last night as opposed to a White Sox scout. KW was in town, and Schmidt was here too. Its not like KW is going to go home and go to sleep. I thought Gammons said Schmidt was not available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 5 more days till the deadline. Nobody knows what to expect at this point, not even KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 07:41 AM) 5 more days till the deadline. Nobody knows what to expect at this point, not even KW. Truer words have never been spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Maybe that was KW's idea all along. Make everyone think he's going after Burnett, then he shows up at a Schmidt game. That guy's a genius, I say. Wouldn't you agree? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If he somehow manages to land Jason Schmidt.. Then you might be onto something..Also depends on who he gives up and if he figures out our SS problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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