kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(toasty @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) i dont think we want lowell either, too much money for too long of time, fields should be ready sooner, rather than later, if crede's back becomes a permanent issue Crede wont be on the team next year anyway because of Scott Boras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) Crede wont be on the team next year anyway because of Scott Boras I wouldnt say that just yet, crede isnt super star yet, hopefully not outrageous demands for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(toasty @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) I wouldnt say that just yet, crede isnt super star yet, hopefully not outrageous demands for him if scott boras is your agent you are going to be asking for outrages amounts no matter what Edited July 17, 2005 by ScottPodRulez22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(toasty @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 03:32 AM) i dont think we want lowell either, too much money for too long of time, fields should be ready sooner, rather than later, if crede's back becomes a permanent issue Fields' line at Birmy -- .250/.323/.414. Not exactly setting the world on fire, though those are decent after his first half. Just saying, we shouldn't be using "Fields will be ready soon" as an excuse not to get another thirdbaseman. That's not to say I'm for Lowell, 'cause I'm not. He's slumping, really bad -- heck, Scott Podsednik's only slugging .007 points less than him. That's bad. I'm actually against the Contreras/Marte for Burnett deal, too -- 'cause I don't think giving up that is worth Burnett. Truth be told, if Williams could pull of a deal that got us Guardado/Wagner and a long relief, swingman type, I'd be so pleased. Wagner is going to be the hot target in the next two-three weeks, so I'd be extremely happy with Guardado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) Crede wont be on the team next year anyway because of Scott Boras Cheesus lice... crede is not a free agent at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) Fields' line at Birmy -- .250/.323/.414. Not exactly setting the world on fire, though those are decent after his first half. Just saying, we shouldn't be using "Fields will be ready soon" as an excuse not to get another thirdbaseman. That's not to say I'm for Lowell, 'cause I'm not. He's slumping, really bad -- heck, Scott Podsednik's only slugging .007 points less than him. That's bad. I'm actually against the Contreras/Marte for Burnett deal, too -- 'cause I don't think giving up that is worth Burnett. Truth be told, if Williams could pull of a deal that got us Guardado/Wagner and a long relief, swingman type, I'd be so pleased. Wagner is going to be the hot target in the next two-three weeks, so I'd be extremely happy with Guardado. ^^^^^^^^^ All we need is a good realiver/closer can you really trust hermanson to do this all season. We dont need a starter in the playoffs you only need 4 starters so it dosent matter about el duque in the playoffs. If Duque can pitch decent the rest of the way I will be happy because he did his job and dosent need to pitch in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:46 PM) Cheesus lice... crede is not a free agent at the end of the year. are you sure I could have sworn he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) are you sure I could have sworn he was Positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) Positive. well your probaly right since qwerty knows everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) if duque is healthy, his post season experience is important Edited July 17, 2005 by toasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I don't know who started the Peavy rumor, but it's a pipe dream that's not gonna happen. Waste of thread space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Winning Ugly @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 11:56 PM) I don't know who started the Peavy rumor, but it's a pipe dream that's not gonna happen. Waste of thread space. We have already established that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) well your probaly right since qwerty knows everything He is NOT a free agent. He will be arbitration eligible, like Aaron Rowand was last off-season. His agent is Scot Bora$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 02:55 AM) If it's Wagner, Hermy's a setup man. No doubt. Hermy has also said he'll do whatever the Sox ask. It's all about team with him. Exactly YAS, it is because of Hermy being the ultimate team guy that a Wagner or Guardado should be(and hopefully is) at the top of our shopping list. There would be no chemistry issue at all with either of those two because of Hermy. It also helps that both are considered great team players themselves and most likely the addition of either would end up with us going to a dual closer role so that both Hermy and Billy/Eddie would be fresh come playoff time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I caught the last bit of Buster Olney on baseball tonight last night but I swore he said something about that Sox are talking to the Marlins about Juan Encarnacion. Did anyone else catch this or am I mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) I caught the last bit of Buster Olney on baseball tonight last night but I swore he said something about that Sox are talking to the Marlins about Juan Encarnacion. Did anyone else catch this or am I mistaken I know Encarnacion was mentioned with Burnett to the O's rumors, but I haven't heard him mentioned with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnin Ugly Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 10:15 AM) I caught the last bit of Buster Olney on baseball tonight last night but I swore he said something about that Sox are talking to the Marlins about Juan Encarnacion. Did anyone else catch this or am I mistaken Buster did say that last night about Encarnacion coming to the sox.. Why would the Sox need him unless we trade him to get a reliever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) Buster did say that last night about Encarnacion coming to the sox.. Why would the Sox need him unless we trade him to get a reliever I thought Buster was crazy when he said that night. Not to sure how the sox would use J Encarnacion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) I thought Buster was crazy when he said that night. Not to sure how the sox would use J Encarnacion If a team won't take Lowell in a deal, then Encarnacion is the excess baggage a team would have to take instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 04:42 PM) I thought Buster was crazy when he said that night. Not to sure how the sox would use J Encarnacion Could it be the Red Sox? 'Cause they could use Encarnacion as a UTL OFer, with Payton traded away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Winning Ugly @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:56 PM) I don't know who started the Peavy rumor, but it's a pipe dream that's not gonna happen. Waste of thread space. I think you can argue a lot of the rumors are a waste of thread space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I read on the Twinkies board that the Sox and Twins were interested in Kenny Rogers. The poster got the news from ESPN Insider. So my question is, if we get him what's the deal with the suspension and his appeal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 From Today's local papers & today's game notes: Uribe + Crede : 0-7 today. Uribe 0-21. Fuels the Omar rumors. Joe looked like he was in pain & 3rd today but he still made plays. Sox still be reported as pursuing Burnet & Schmidt. I think they are waiting on El Duque's start before deciding to pull the trigger here. For the last month the D'Backs have assigned a scout to follow the Sox. Possibility the Sox are looking to deal Takatsu to help build a pkg to trade for Burnett. Guillen has confirmed Takatsu talks are on-going. Florida has assigned a dedicated scout to the Sox since the Oak series. Trading for Burnett will cost you about $1.8M now & another $1M when he reaches 190 IP. He's a FA after this season Baltimore has dedicated a scout to follow Florida. The Sox have assigned a scout to follow Toronto & Lilly this month. He's owed about $1.5M now & eligible for arbitration after this season. Sadly to say nothing on Omar which would greatly shore up are biggest weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 05:36 PM) I read on the Twinkies board that the Sox and Twins were interested in Kenny Rogers. The poster got the news from ESPN Insider. So my question is, if we get him what's the deal with the suspension and his appeal? I woudnt want him and that whole story ruining team chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 http://thejuice.baseballtoaster.com/ Will Carroll is a writer for Baseball Prospectus. He writes 'Under the Knife,' and has connections to MLB staffs. The A.J. Burnett deal is heating up. Texas appears to be out and Toronto is a longer shot than previous. Baltimore upped their offer, meaning they may have added Hayden Penn to the mix or, more likely, are willing to take on not only Mike Lowell (who the Twins can't afford) but Juan Encarnacion. That would be a bold move for the Orioles. This trade will happen sooner than later, assuming it happens. Baltimore is severely overpaying in this circumstance, and we'd be wise to drop out. As it is, I feel we'd be wise to drop out and let the AL East fight for him. The Rays may also miss out on a chance to move Denys Baez now that the D-Backs are scouting Shingo Takatsu. The Sox aren't asking for one of the elite prospects in return, as the Rays did. I guess they're still scouting shingo... For those that doubted Zach Duke, well, quit doubting. The kid is real. His emergence - and several options including Ian Snell and Tom Gorzelanny, make Mark Redman and Kip Wells available. Redman is being watched by the Yanks and Red Sox. The White Sox would love to have Wells back if they miss out on Burnett or another top-line starter. Told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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