Cubs Suck23 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Chicago White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko gets to play against the best player he ever played with -- Tigers rightfielder Magglio Ordonez. "I just know he was a great teammate, and he's the best player I ever played with, period," Konerko told the Daily Herald of Arlington Heights, Ill. Konerko spoke on the eve of Ordonez's first game against the White Sox, which happens tonight when the Tigers visit U.S. Cellular Field. Ordonez spent his whole 14-year career in the Sox organization before signing with the Tigers for $75 million in the off-season. "No offense to anybody I've played with, but when that guy's healthy and playing well, I've never played with anybody better," Konerko said. That statement seems more impressive considering Konerko played with Mike Piazza in Los Angeles and, for the past six years, with Frank Thomas. Ordonez played three games before July because of hernia surgery. He missed any chance to stop Chicago's runaway season in the Central Division. Chicago (61-29) has a 12-game division lead largely because of a 30-5 record in the Central, 7-1 against the Tigers. Four of those wins came in the first month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Frank hasn't played the field much and Piazza is a toss up. I can't really disagree with that statement. I'm trying to think of who else he would have picked. CLee? Jose Valentin? I'm assuming pitchers were not considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubs Suck23 Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 What about Barry Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 In Paul's position he has to say nice things about everybody. --He just might be playing in Detroit next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Much more interesting is the rest of what he said. This tells you a lot about the questions that they asked, and what the DH left out of their article. This is from the Trib. I don't know if it will be a circus," first baseman Paul Konerko said Sunday before the Sox beat the Indians 4-0. "We're trying to focus on things that are bigger and better. If we were a middle-of-the-road, .500 or a last-place team, this would be a bigger deal." I couldn't have said it any better myself. They don't care about Maggs, they care about beating whoever they are playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 06:12 AM) Chicago White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko gets to play against the best player he ever played with -- Tigers rightfielder Magglio Ordonez. "I just know he was a great teammate, and he's the best player I ever played with, period," Konerko told the Daily Herald of Arlington Heights, Ill. Konerko spoke on the eve of Ordonez's first game against the White Sox, which happens tonight when the Tigers visit U.S. Cellular Field. Ordonez spent his whole 14-year career in the Sox organization before signing with the Tigers for $75 million in the off-season. "No offense to anybody I've played with, but when that guy's healthy and playing well, I've never played with anybody better," Konerko said. That statement seems more impressive considering Konerko played with Mike Piazza in Los Angeles and, for the past six years, with Frank Thomas. Ordonez played three games before July because of hernia surgery. He missed any chance to stop Chicago's runaway season in the Central Division. Chicago (61-29) has a 12-game division lead largely because of a 30-5 record in the Central, 7-1 against the Tigers. Four of those wins came in the first month. Konerko came to the Sox in 98 or 99. Who was a better player than Magglio since that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 06:28 AM) Konerko came to the Sox in 98 or 99. Who was a better player than Magglio since that time? Mark Buerhle or Royce Clayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(HSC's Biggest Fan @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 07:44 AM) Mark Buerhle or Royce Clayton Usually pitchers are not considered in "best player". Especially in the AL when they do not bat or play everyday. Throwing pitchers into the mix and yes, Buerhle has been the best at his position during the Kong Years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 My point was more toward the accolades he seems to go out of his way to shower upon former teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(HSC's Biggest Fan @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) My point was more toward the accolades he seems to go out of his way to shower upon former teammates. Well Maggz was his teamate for a long time and b4 this off-season he seemed like a great guy and everything. Frank obviously respected him because he told Ozzie he was willing to move down the batting order for him. And Maggz was a very good player to us... If I was there i for one would not booh him, I wouldnt give him a standing ovation because of the way he left but wouldnt booh him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 If the Tigers somehow sign Konerko, they'll end up getting into a bidding war with themselves and Konerko will end up with a 57 year deal @ 12.572M per year + incentives. The Tigers are well on the way to becoming the Mets of the AL, probably the stupidest upper management that has no idea how to spend money or when to spend it. As much as I like Konerko, he's not the answer at 1B for the future, he obviously has a hole in his zone, he seems to chase the outside slider no matter how far off the plate it is. Yes, he hits a lot of home runs...but he's not worth 8M+ per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I thought Royce was the best player he's ever played with...? I wish Paul would get a toothache and his mouth would swell shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm beginning to agree. Konerko has said some very contradictary stuff this year...he seems to be the only member of this team that isn't on the same page as everyone else. And no, I'm not going to go back and cite the many times this year he's said things that would make the entire team shake their head and wonder why. QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 07:12 AM) I thought Royce was the best player he's ever played with...? I wish Paul would get a toothache and his mouth would swell shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:12 AM) I wish Paul would get a toothache and his mouth would swell shut. On one hand we dislike players who avoid the media and never give interviews. We love the guys like Barkley who will answer any question. On the other hand, I shake my head that Paul would have answered that. He should have broken out a tired cliche like "he's just another player on another team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I don't think there is any question that Maggs was the best player from 99-04 on the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) On one hand we dislike players who avoid the media and never give interviews. We love the guys like Barkley who will answer any question. On the other hand, I shake my head that Paul would have answered that. He should have broken out a tired cliche like "he's just another player on another team". Actually he pretty much did. PK also said this at the end of the article "I can tell you no one in the clubhouse is talking about this," Konerko said. "Our whole day revolves around getting a win. So everything else is a distant second when it comes to an issue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:31 AM) Actually he pretty much did. PK also said this at the end of the article I'd agree no one else is talking about it. No one else cares.. no one else has quotes about maggs in the papers.. just Paul. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 07:33 AM) I'd agree no one else is talking about it. No one else cares.. no one else has quotes about maggs in the papers.. just Paul. :rolly Beacuse Paul has been here the longest besides Frank for the most part, and Paul is the all-star/leader type of this team. He's the guy the media approaches. There is somebody like that on every team. It just so happens that he tells it like it is, and doesn't sugarcoat anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 07:18 AM) What about Barry Larkin Considering how few games he actually played with the Reds, did he even play a complete game with Barry Larkin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:33 AM) I'd agree no one else is talking about it. No one else cares.. no one else has quotes about maggs in the papers.. just Paul. :rolly Ozzie has plenty of quotes in there too, that is in the Trib version where they printed the whole story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) Ozzie has plenty of quotes in there too, that is in the Trib version where they printed the whole story. And actually after rereading the article Frank Thomas has quotes in there about Maggs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:12 AM) I thought Royce was the best player he's ever played with...? I wish Paul would get a toothache and his mouth would swell shut. I believe Paul qualified that remark about Clayton by using the word "shortstop". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Call me crazy, but I see nothing wrong with what Konero said. Maggs was a great baseball player the entire time he played with Pauly. Arguably the best he's ever played with. In terms of Pauly not being on board with the rest of the team this year, that may be true, but not in this case. I haven't heard a Sox player rip Maggs, so why is Pauly praising Maggs considered not being on board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) Ozzie has plenty of quotes in there too, that is in the Trib version where they printed the whole story. Of course he does. As he's said several times he wants the focus on him and his comments. Not his players.. Paul just can't help himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:41 AM) I believe Paul qualified that remark about Clayton by using the word "shortstop". Apparently Paul was blowing smoke up Royce's ass.. "No offense to anybody I've played with, but when that guy's healthy and playing well, I've never played with anybody better," Konerko said. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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