Chisoxrd5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:04 AM) He tells what he believes is the truth, and he supports his friends. Obviously his "leadership" hasn't been that bad this season because everyone has said great things about Paul, and NO ONE has come out and said anything bad about what Paul is saying. If someone wanted to say something, you can bet the reporter would find that person. As it is, nobody in the clubhouse cares. Juan probably doesn't even know that Paul said Royce is the best SS (he meant defensively) hes played with. Why? HE DOESN"T CARE. None of them do. I'm sure Paulie and Maggs hung out all the time :rolly Of course no one has said anything bad about Paul, they have other things to worry about, and use more than 1/8 of their brain when asked a question. My question is why does he continue to take the alternative and often dumb route when it comes to these type of questions? I've been extremely disappointed with his antics with the media and at the plate this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) After thinking about it, this whole damn thread is stupid. There is nothing wrong with what Konerko said, and if you think there is then you're just looking for something to complain about because you dislike Paul. Ridiculous. I'm out of here. Bye YAS.. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I don't dislike Paulie at all...I love having him here, however there are times he says things that just make me go : ?! Maybe it's just me, but when your current SS is struggling, you don't go and say "Royce Clayton is the best SS I've ever played with", even if it IS true...it was the last thing Uribe needed to hear from his so called team "leader". Leaders are supposed to elevate guys on their team who are struggling, even if only mentally...and comments like that did not help! Same goes for his comments on Maggs...yes, Konerko may feel Maggs was the best hes ever played with...but what does Dye think about that?! Wow...am I chopped liver here?! It goes without saying, but if I'm at work and my boss says to me, wow...the guy who was here before you was just soooooooooooooo much better than you, how the F!@# does that make me feel?! Wake up...these comments may seem innocent because he's telling the truth, but they aren't confidence inspiring to his current team. That is not what leaders do. Ever. QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:07 AM) After thinking about it, this whole damn thread is stupid. There is nothing wrong with what Konerko said, and if you think there is then you're just looking for something to complain about because you dislike Paul. Ridiculous. I'm out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thank you, Paulie. Now, get back in the corner and practice hitting fly-outs and double-plays with RISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) After thinking about it, this whole damn thread is stupid. There is nothing wrong with what Konerko said, and if you think there is then you're just looking for something to complain about because you dislike Paul. Ridiculous. I'm out of here. ^^^^^^^^^^ By my count, this is about the 4th or 5th thread about something "terrible" that Paul said this season, and I don't remember any of them being remotely rational. This one takes the cake. There is absolutely no harm in this statement. He said Maggs is the best player he's ever played with, and you can make a strong case that he's right. He didn't say he was the only great player he played with, nor did he intentionally put anybody down. If a player somehow takes this personally, they should probably grow thicker skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) ^^^^^^^^^^ By my count, this is about the 4th or 5th thread about something "terrible" that Paul said this season, and I don't remember any of them being remotely rational. This one takes the cake. There is absolutely no harm in this statement. He said Maggs is the best player he's ever played with, and you can make a strong case that he's right. He didn't say he was the only great player he played with, nor did he intentionally put anybody down. If a player somehow takes this personally, they should probably grow thicker skin. No.. he didn't say "the only great player".. he said "the greatest". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 08:10 AM) I'll agree with that.. and I have no problem with Paul thinking that.. however.. is it necessary to call 2 ex Sox great players when you're team is currently in first place having the best season in 80 years.. 12 games up, etc, etc..?? That's where I find this all funny.. and sad. Not just Paul.. but every single one of the guys whenever they are asked should be saying nothing but things about this team and the awesome year they are having. JMO.. Yah, I agree with a lot of that, but the media doesn't want to hear about that. They need a new angle. With Maggs coming back for the first time thats the angle. I'm sure when Paul was asked to comment on Maggs and what type of player he was, Paul said Maggs was the best he's ever played with which I think is pretty much true. I don't have any problem with that comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Are you kidding me? Are we talking about Little Leaguers? No, these are grown men. Making millions of dollars to play a game. And some of you are worried about how Uribe or Dye feel? None of us know how anyone on the team feels. Uribe may have been pissed, but instead of ripping Pauly, maybe we can put a positive spin on it and think that if Uribe IS pissed, that he talked to Pauly and they worked it out. Dye on the other hand has been in this league too long to care what a Paul Konerko says to the media ONCE. These guys really only get pissed because of two things, something that is blatantly wrong that is repeated constantly and personal attacks. I can't imagine a one time thing isn't going to get anyone's panties in a bunch. Let's drop it and enjoy the first sweep of the Indians in Cleveland in 42 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:16 AM) Are you kidding me? Are we talking about Little Leaguers? No, these are grown men. Making millions of dollars to play a game. And some of you are worried about how Uribe or Dye feel? None of us know how anyone on the team feels. Uribe may have been pissed, but instead of ripping Pauly, maybe we can put a positive spin on it and think that if Uribe IS pissed, that he talked to Pauly and they worked it out. Dye on the other hand has been in this league too long to care what a Paul Konerko says to the media ONCE. These guys really only get pissed because of two things, something that is blatantly wrong that is repeated constantly and personal attacks. I can't imagine a one time thing isn't going to get anyone's panties in a bunch. Let's drop it and enjoy the first sweep of the Indians in Cleveland in 42 years. Careful ... you'll end up taking my crown as the King of Crabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) I don't know. I just don't trust paulie since 2002. I feel the royce comment and now this may be indirect shots at Frank. Sometimes its just best not to say anything at all. Edited July 18, 2005 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I don't know. I just don't trust paulie since 2002. I feel the royce comment and now this may be indirect shots at Frank. Sometimes its just best not to say anything at all. The Clayton comment and this one are totally different. Clayton was released by the Sox and considered a cancer by members of the team and management. Ordonez was the best player on the team during Konerko's time here. His teammates respected him and management offered him the largest contract in team history. Konerko is far from the only one with the team who feels the way he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:38 PM) Careful ... you'll end up taking my crown as the King of Crabby. I'll just be the Earl of Crabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) The Clayton comment and this one are totally different. Clayton was released by the Sox and considered a cancer by members of the team and management. Ordonez was the best player on the team during Konerko's time here. His teammates respected him and management offered him the largest contract in team history. Konerko is far from the only one with the team who feels the way he does. I'll take that bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) The Clayton comment and this one are totally different. Clayton was released by the Sox and considered a cancer by members of the team and management. Ordonez was the best player on the team during Konerko's time here. His teammates respected him and management offered him the largest contract in team history. Konerko is far from the only one with the team who feels the way he does. That does not mean that they were not both indirect shots at Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) That does not mean that they were not both indirect shots at Frank. But saying that they WERE indirect shots at Frank would be pure speculation. So far this year, I've heard Pauly do nothing but compliment Frank...directly, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) But saying that they WERE indirect shots at Frank would be pure speculation. So far this year, I've heard Pauly do nothing but compliment Frank...directly, that is. your right. it is just speculation. Regardless , I will stick to my speculation. That's why this is a message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) But saying that they WERE indirect shots at Frank would be pure speculation. So far this year, I've heard Pauly do nothing but compliment Frank...directly, that is. I don't even care what they were.. shots, not shots. Doesn't matter. I just think it's best to focus on the great season they are having. I don't see the point in bringing up how good anyone else is/was/etc. I think there is more than enough material for Paul to be praising his current teammates and don't understand why he needs to praise others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Konerko talks too much, about the wrong things, at the wrong time. He needs to go mute and concentrate on his hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 This thread got to 5 pages how? Frank complimented Magglio 2 so lets go make a 5 page thread about Frank. Konerko says some dumb things no doubt but this isnt one of them especially since at the end he says it would only matter if we were .500 team or lower on Maggz welcome back party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) your right. it is just speculation. Regardless , I will stick to my speculation. That's why this is a message board. I'm not critcizing your speculation. Just friendly debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) This thread got to 5 pages how? Thanks for adding to it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) I'm not critcizing your speculation. Just friendly debate. Thats what us sox fans do best I get over defensive with Frank at times. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:04 AM) Thats what us sox fans do best I get over defensive with Frank at times. Sorry about that. Yeah why aren't we talking about Frank's .226 average, or that he can't hit a fastball anymore? [runs and hides to admire the blaze] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) Yeah why aren't we talking about Frank's .226 average, or that he can't hit a fastball anymore? [runs and hides to admire the blaze] I will find you at the next tail gate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Konerko often makes comments that are what I call "subtle sabotage". I dislike dealing with people who in engage in this and generally try to say as little as possible to them. They make for an unpleasant work environment. The White Sox have the best chance in my lifetime to have a very special season. Just shut up Paul, and work on that swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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