He_Gawn Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hell I'll take him. If he turns out even somewhat good, its a slap in the cubs face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) Shingo is a piece of what has made us a first place team????? Shouldnt that be in green. no were in 1st place and he is on the team I agree with rockraines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) Shingo is a piece of what has made us a first place team????? Shouldnt that be in green. 8 saves and 3 holds, yeah he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm a big, big, big fan of this idea. Shingo is about as unreliable a pitcher coming out of the bullpen as they come. News flash: They've figured Shingo out!!!!!!! He got by with a year of smoke-and-mirrors and now the guy can't get anything done. He stands a good chance of doing well in the NL for a year or so because they have not seen him. The AL, especially the AL Central (with whom we have many, many games against in the second half) have figured Shingo out in a major way. Say what you will about the guy, but LaTroy knows how to pitch. If he can match up with Cooper and his own battery-mate in Pierzynski, who knows how well he can preform. Hell, he may even revert back to his former Twins self. This much I promise you: his celing with the White Sox is much higher in a pennant race than Shingo. If the move is there, I consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:27 PM) I'm a big, big, big fan of this idea. Shingo is about as unreliable a pitcher coming out of the bullpen as they come. News flash: They've figured Shingo out!!!!!!! He got by with a year of smoke-and-mirrors and now the guy can't get anything done. He stands a good chance of doing well in the NL for a year or so because they have not seen him. The AL, especially the AL Central (with whom we have many, many games against in the second half) have figured Shingo out in a major way. Say what you will about the guy, but LaTroy knows how to pitch. If he can match up with Cooper and his own battery-mate in Pierzynski, who knows how well he can preform. Hell, he may even revert back to his former Twins self. This much I promise you: his celing with the White Sox is much higher in a pennant race than Shingo. If the move is there, I consider it. If we got latroy in his twins form that would make us a lock to win after like the 6th inning if we have the lead 6th cotts, 7th hawkins, 8th politte, 9th hermy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hawkins never gives up runs when its a lead of 3 or more. Never. I'll take him for Shingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Hawkins never gives up runs when its a lead of 3 or more. This is a team that relies on the One-Run win. Tell me how Hawkins does with a one-run lead, not a 3 run lead. chattin tonite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) If we got latroy in his twins form that would make us a lock to win after like the 6th inning if we have the lead 6th cotts, 7th hawkins, 8th politte, 9th hermy What about Damaso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:01 PM) This is a team that relies on the One-Run win. Tell me how Hawkins does with a one-run lead, not a 3 run lead. chattin tonite? Hell.Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) What about Damaso? Big lead/tie-game pitcher who pitches to both sides of batters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 This is a team that relies on the One-Run win. Tell me how Hawkins does with a one-run lead, not a 3 run lead. chattin tonite? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. I'll do you one better. Going to the game. I scraped together some dough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'd do this deal in a heartbeat. Latroy is starting to round back into form of a a few years ago. After his first or second outing with the giants he's basically been unhittable. He needed to get away from the cubs and he'll be fine. Coming to the Sox would give him some motivation as well, I'd love a deal like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 It would be a perfect spit in the face for the Northsiders, if we could bring him and have him be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) No. I'll do you one better. Going to the game. I scraped together some dough. You bastard. I was going, until I realized that I have only so much money to make the trip to Carbondale this upcoming weekend. Next monday night game I am there though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yea. I figured I onyl have the dough to go see every so often... So I jumped on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 One thing I can't figure out though is why would the Giants want Shingo over Vizcaino? Is Viz that worthless these days? I don't think any one's figured out Shingo to the degree some of you are suggesting. There's nothing to figure out. If he's throwing the frisbee for strikes it makes his fastball many times better. If he's not hitters just wait on his fastball. It's really not that much of a difference from what Boston & Foulke are going through. He's lost control of his changeup, can't throw it for strikes, so they just wait on his fastball. These finesse type guys usually figure it out. It's not like Koch where once the velocity is down put a fork in them. The thing with both Shingo & Foulke though is what if it has little to do with them & everything to do with the umps? What if the umps just being stingy this year on the corners? That's death to pitchers like Shingo & Foulke who really need those corner pitches called for strikes to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I have wanted Hawkins even when pitching poorly with the Cubs. That north side bullpen is a mess and will always be a mess under Baker. I can't say Hawkins will be as good as he was with Minnesota, but I think he can turn into a valuable arm if we get him. I'm not really putting any fact into my words other than we all know Hawkins isn't a closer, but I have a good feeling that if he put some time in with Cooper and threw in the 7th inning, we'd have a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:49 PM) I have wanted Hawkins even when pitching poorly with the Cubs. That north side bullpen is a mess and will always be a mess under Baker. I can't say Hawkins will be as good as he was with Minnesota, but I think he can turn into a valuable arm if we get him. I'm not really putting any fact into my words other than we all know Hawkins isn't a closer, but I have a good feeling that if he put some time in with Cooper and threw in the 7th inning, we'd have a steal. As long as he is last on the list for "emergency closer", I am happy. I agree that he would be a nice 7th inning stopper. A much better option than jizzcan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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