palesox38 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 (edited) My feeling is that, as the best team in baseball, we shouldn't stand pat when it comes to trades. I'm not saying we should make a trade just to make one, but I think you need to make the team better if you want to make it to the World Series. Look at what the Cards did last year, they traded for Larry Walker, but did they really need him? I really think that we should try and get an SP/3B. If Burnett goes to the O's, I think we really should try to make a push for Ted Lilly and possibly Joe Randa. On another note: I was listening to ESPN Radio last night and Gary Miller said that other American League teams should be terrified of the fact that the Sox are probably going to make a big trade. Edited July 19, 2005 by palesox38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S720 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:59 PM) My feeling is that, as the best team in baseball, we shouldn't stand pat when it comes to trades. I'm not saying we should make a trade just to make one, but I think you need to make the team better if you want to make it to the World Series. Look at what the Cards did last year, they traded for Larry Walker, but did they really need him? I really think that we should try and get an SP/3B. If Burnett goes to the O's, I think we really should to make a push for Ted Lilly and possibley Joe Randa. On another note: I was listening to ESPN Radio last night and Gary Miller said that other American League teams should be terrified of the fact that the Sox are probably going to make a big trade. I have a feelings that Kenny is waiting for July 30th before he makes his moves. The asking price right now is just too unreasonably high. Why pay high now when you can get cheaper as we get closer to the trade deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palesox38 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(S720 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:07 PM) I have a feelings that Kenny is waiting for July 30th before he makes his moves. The asking price right now is just too unreasonably high. Why pay high now when you can get cheaper as we get closer to the trade deadline? Thats a good point, I wouldn't be suprised if he pulled of something suprising around then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Regular season is one thing but this team needs to do ANYTHING to get to the goal a World Series, winning central is nice but that is not the goal they should have, this excuse by KW about chemistry BS when attendance is good is getting a little old with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrain081 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 I don't know what waiting until near the deadline really accomplishes. Last year all the Yanks got for waiting was Loaiza... Point is by that time most of the bigger names are gone, and the scraps are left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 team chemistry is an excuse to not take a risk. It would be an emotional letdown to the players if it didn't appear ownership was willing to do what it takes to win it all. I think though that Kenny is keeping his cards close to his chest and will make an impact move. I hope we send prospects and not big leaguers, that's the best way to preserve "team chemistry" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Most teams are waiting to see where they are in the standings by the deadline. Teams like Oak, Phi, Hou, are still trying to contend for the wildcard. Realistically, these teams don't have a chance but aren't ready to sell off their players. One losing streak will turn a few teams into sellers that we aren't talking about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 This year is odd in that so many teams are still in it. Standing pat is not that bad, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 05:25 AM) Most teams are waiting to see where they are in the standings by the deadline. Teams like Oak, Phi, Hou, are still trying to contend for the wildcard. Realistically, these teams don't have a chance but aren't ready to sell off their players. One losing streak will turn a few teams into sellers that we aren't talking about now. That would be nice, Zito and Wagner would become more available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:10 AM) That would be nice, Zito and Wagner would become more available. If we could beat the damn A's, Zito might be in our rotation by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Here's the interesting thing about GM's though and one that's not always brought up because it's not as highly publicized...but sometimes it's the trades that AREN'T made that can make a great GM. Overpaying for a rental isn't always what the team needs. In the Around the Horn thread, I asked if there were any deadline deals that put a team over the top? I mean, big time trades, like Randy Johnson to the Astros. That didn't get them to the World Series and they lost him the next year. Someone responded that the last big one was the Yankees in '96 or '98 and the only one I found was Sierra and a minor leaguer for Cecil Fielder. I guess that was blockbuster at the time. All I'm saying is, a big splash fades away, but a bunch of little stones keeps the ripples going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) Here's the interesting thing about GM's though and one that's not always brought up because it's not as highly publicized...but sometimes it's the trades that AREN'T made that can make a great GM. Overpaying for a rental isn't always what the team needs. In the Around the Horn thread, I asked if there were any deadline deals that put a team over the top? I mean, big time trades, like Randy Johnson to the Astros. That didn't get them to the World Series and they lost him the next year. Someone responded that the last big one was the Yankees in '96 or '98 and the only one I found was Sierra and a minor leaguer for Cecil Fielder. I guess that was blockbuster at the time. All I'm saying is, a big splash fades away, but a bunch of little stones keeps the ripples going. The Yankees getting Dave Justice was definitely big, don't remember the yr off hand. I don't think the Marlins get in in '03 without Urbina so that was pretty big. But yea if you go over the WS teams of the last 10 yrs the surprising thing is just how few trades were made by those teams in season. That said, we still need another arm for the BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(upnorthsox @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) The Yankees getting Dave Justice was definitely big, don't remember the yr off hand. I don't think the Marlins get in in '03 without Urbina so that was pretty big. But yea if you go over the WS teams of the last 10 yrs the surprising thing is just how few trades were made by those teams in season. That said, we still need another arm for the BP. I agree, but that isn't a "big" trade. Like getting a Mariano Rivera, Eric Gagne (if healthy), or someone like that. Eddie Guardado would be a "medium" trade in my book, but great for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAFTR Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Carlos Beltran probably propelled the astros to the NLCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:10 AM) That would be nice, Zito and Wagner would become more available. I dont think Oakland is going to fall out of the race. Aren't they only 2 out of the Wild Card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think we need to make some sort of trade, because I dont think we can win the series with this team yes they rule and they are the best team ever but we havent even played are main postseason competition yet the red sox and yankees. This weekend will really show us what kind of team we have. Also, I think we need to make a trade to show the players that we care and want them to win but I hope KW dosent go out there and makes a trade to make a trade. I trust KW will make a trade that will help this team out alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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