baggio202 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 harris cf jimenez 2b thomas dh magglio rf valentin ss konerko 1b lee lf crede 3b catcher not sure if id do it..just thought id throw it out...2 advantages..an actual basestealer in the lead off spot...and val becomes are lefty power hitting in the middle of the order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Interesting lineup, although calling up Harris and sticking him in the leadoff spot is a bit dicey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Eh . Harris' speed definitely begs for him to be in the top of the line-up though. It'll be interesting to see how JM f***s it up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I agree on everything but the Konerko/Lee positioning. Switch the two, and then you have an all right lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Interesting lineup, although calling up Harris and sticking him in the leadoff spot is a bit dicey. Agreed, stick Harris in the nine hole for a while. I also think Olivo can do a lot of little things and he could turn into a really good two hole hitter in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 Agreed, stick Harris in the nine hole for a while. I also think Olivo can do a lot of little things and he could turn into a really good two hole hitter in the future. as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I don't know if you wanted to try this, but I'm thinking it might be good for Valentin to lead off, since his bat's been hot, and he's been our clutch hitter this year. He'll start us out right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K Paulie's just not seeing the ball right now. If he can improve, then we might bring him up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K OK..then flip flop them back... i think they are pretty much interchangable....maybe go with who is hot at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeportHeather Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K OK..then flip flop them back... i think they are pretty much interchangable....maybe go with who is hot at the time Did I just hear someone question who is HOTTER???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K Paulie's just not seeing the ball right now. If he can improve, then we might bring him up again. Konerko is really coming along. He's a better proven run producer so I'd stick him there. Plus its a better way to break up the slow players. Also in reference to Olivo, we'll see him draw plenty of walks as soon as he gets comfortable. This kid has great patience at the plate. One thing I'd do is have Carlos and Konerko ahead of Jose against lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K Paulie's just not seeing the ball right now. If he can improve, then we might bring him up again. Konerko is really coming along. He's a better proven run producer so I'd stick him there. Plus its a better way to break up the slow players. Also in reference to Olivo, we'll see him draw plenty of walks as soon as he gets comfortable. This kid has great patience at the plate. One thing I'd do is have Carlos and Konerko ahead of Jose against lefties. Agree 100% with breaking up the slow players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I agree on everything but the Konerko/Lee positioning. Switch the two, and then you have an all right lineup. I like it! and it rewards who is hitting and who isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 as soon as olivo learns to walk a little more..he would make a great number 2 hitter.. heather...thats cool..flip flop lee and konerko Konerko at 7 I should think not. Lee's 2 1/2 weeks don't make him a better hitter than Paul K Paulie's just not seeing the ball right now. If he can improve, then we might bring him up again. Konerko is really coming along. He's a better proven run producer so I'd stick him there. Plus its a better way to break up the slow players. Also in reference to Olivo, we'll see him draw plenty of walks as soon as he gets comfortable. This kid has great patience at the plate. One thing I'd do is have Carlos and Konerko ahead of Jose against lefties. Agree 100% with breaking up the slow players It kills me with all the double plays the Sox have already hit into. We know Konerko and Magglio will hit into a ton of them. If we can find a way to have speed in front of Maggs (we usually do unless its Frank) and then have it on again in front of PK, we'd probably see those numbers drop. Those numbers are also inflated because the top guys got on base so often early on while the Sox bats were absolutely horrid in the middle. That and when you try to pull every outside pitch you see, your gonna hit a heck of a lot of grounders (That goes for pretty much everyone on our lineup) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Good point. The lack of a good approach at the plate is inducive to hitting into some double plays when your top 2 guys are getting on base consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I've been watching Mags' hitting into double plays for years, trying to figure it out. The one time I hate to see him at bat is with a runner at first and 1 out. And from watching this all these years, I think Mags' dps have nothing to do with speed on the bases. It could have been Durham at first, or Jose, or Frank, or last season, Willie Harris, and they are still all out by the same margin when the dp is made. You could have the fastest person ever on the bases in front of Mags and it won't matter than if you ahve the slowest person ever. Mags creams them so hard to the shortstop that it is a simple 6-4-3. So I am not as concerned as putting speed on the bases in front of Mags as a way to reduce the double plays. I like the speed in front of Frank - because when he is hitting he can move them around, and I think that time is real fast upon us. If Frank moves them then Mags has something to work with - hopefully with first open. Doesn't help Mags at all to have P (I never hit in the month of May) K hitting behind him for the last half of 2002 and thus far in 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I would leave JV in that number 2 spot in the lineup. Putting Harris in the leadoff spot is risky, but with Jiminez scuffling like he has been lately, that might be the thing to do. If not, I'd put Harris batting 8th in front of whoever is catching. With him on base, Alomar and Olivo should see some good pitches to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I've been watching Mags' hitting into double plays for years, trying to figure it out. The one time I hate to see him at bat is with a runner at first and 1 out. Maggs is always puzzling in that regard because he seems to have made a brilliant career by taking very different approaches to different pitchers,hence the low k totals. However, it makes no matter who's pitching in that situation because the smart money says 6-4-3 dp, that adjustment is immpossible for him, whereas put that runner on 2 with 1 out and you can expect him to bring him home, not ground to short. I don't know what you do for that but it would be a weakness of his for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Oh lord... Harris and Jiminez in the same lineup...? :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I say leave Jimenez alone. Every hitter is going to scuffle a bit during a season, you can't start jerking everyone around simply because they're going through a cold stretch. He keeps getting good looks, and still hits some pretty hard balls. He'll come around. This is what I'd like to see against rhp: Jimenez 2b Valentin ss Ordonez rf Konerko 1B Rios cf Thomas dh Lee lf Crede 3b Olivo/Alomar c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 harris cf jimenez 2b thomas dh magglio rf valentin ss konerko 1b lee lf crede 3b catcher not sure if id do it..just thought id throw it out...2 advantages..an actual basestealer in the lead off spot...and val becomes are lefty power hitting in the middle of the order I like you're thinking but is Harris the long term answer for CF? I want a long term CFer like a Jim Landis or Chet Lemon. I always thought of Harris as an IFer but if I'm wrong that's OK. I just don't like the CF situation as it is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I like you're thinking but is Harris the long term answer for CF? I want a long term CFer like a Jim Landis or Chet Lemon. I always thought of Harris as an IFer but if I'm wrong that's OK. I just don't like the CF situation as it is right now. No..... so do I..... he is originally a 2B..... and me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Right now I would have to disagree with moving PK further down the line up. He is finally coming around. You do realize that he is now hitting for a HIGHER average than Carlos is? (.242 vs .244) Pauly is on a 10 game hitting streak and reached base in 18 straight games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Right now I would have to disagree with moving PK further down the line up. He is finally coming around. You do realize that he is now hitting for a HIGHER average than Carlos is? (.242 vs .244) Pauly is on a 10 game hitting streak and reached base in 18 straight games. Exactly, he started off slow, but he's as solid for .280-30-100 as anyone on the team, save Mags. Leave him and Jimenez alone, they'll be fine. I still say move Frank out of the 3-spot. He's just not productive enough anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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