7/20 Game thread vs. Detroit

[WHarris1]

I am not trying to be funny.

You're right you're trying to be a dumbass douche bag.

 

We own, you're in 4th. Go f*** yourself.

[Frankensteiner]

Hey, any team running into Douglass and Robertson will have a difficult time scoring. Right?

 

But don't worry, it's bound to get easier in the playoffs. Rarely will you face good pitching.

 

I'm not worried, any time you get loss # 31 (while losing 5 out of your last 6 at home) in the middle of July, you can hold your head high. With Contreras and Duque, I like our chances against Boston.

[CYGarland]

I am not trying to be funny.

If you are a Tigers fan trolling Sox boards for amusement, with the way your team has played this year. Then your

[SoxFan562004]

Hey, any team running into Douglass and Robertson will have a difficult time scoring. Right?

 

But don't worry, it's bound to get easier in the playoffs. Rarely will you face good pitching.

That's beginning to become a legitimate concern for me. Freddy struggles in the early innings and a team like the Yankees and the Angels will score more than 2 runs in the early innings off of him, it would be over by the 3rd.

 

but we're not supposed to look past today, so I'm going to go do a dance of joy because we're 30 games over .500

Edited July 20, 2005 by SoxFan562004

[KevHead0881]

The indians guy was much funnier.

 

I was kinda hoping we'd bring Linda S. back. By the way, if you want some more Linda S. comedy, her work is littered all over the "from the cubicle" board on chicagosports.com today.

[southsideirish71]

I'm not worried, any time you get loss # 31 (while losing 5 out of your last 6 at home) in the middle of July, you can hold your head high. With Contreras and Duque, I like our chances against Boston.

30 games over 500 yeah. So we lost 3 out of our last 5 series. The dance of the best record in baseball is here.

[GreatScott82]

THe last 2 games our pitching has been aweful, from Contreras and today Garcia just didn't have it. It was dissappointing to see Cotts and Pollite not being able to keep the damage at a minimum. Our pitching lost this series NOT our offense. I'm happy we fought back, but were not going to beat the Red Sox if we keep pitching like this.

We are 1-2 so far on this homestand- i expect it to be 3-4 after Boston leaves. We will split with the defending champs.

Our probable pitching machups:

Tommorow- Buerhle vs Clement (could go either way)

Friday- Garland vs Wakefield (should win this one)

Saturday- El-duque vs Miller (could go either way)

Sunday- Contreras vs Arroyo (could either way)

[KevHead0881]

30 games over 500 yeah.  So we lost 3 out of our last 5 series. The dance of the best record in baseball is here.

 

We get it. Being happy with a 62-31 record is wrong. Being sarcastically told that it was twice got the point across. Having it done the third time is just annoying.

[SoxFan1]

THe last 2 games our pitching has been aweful, from Contreras and today Garcia just didn't have it. It was dissappointing to see Cotts and Pollite not being able to keep the damage at a minimum. Our pitching lost this series NOT our offense. I'm happy we fought back, but were not going to beat the Red Sox if we keep pitching like this.

We are 1-2 so far on this homestand- i expect it to be 3-4 after Boston leaves. We will split with the defending champs.

Our probable pitching machups:

Tommorow- Buerhle  vs Clement (could go either way)

Friday-        Garland  vs Wakefield  (should win this one)

Saturday-    El-duque vs Miller      (could go either way)

Sunday-      Contreras vs Arroyo    (could either way)

Freddy pitched poorly today? Wow...

[The Ginger Kid]

I say awesome comeback today -- they went down fighting and that's a helluva long way from the Sox teams of recent memory. Detroit caught a break today.

 

Bring on the carmines!

[CYGarland]

Freddy pitched poorly today? Wow...

well he certainly didn't pitch good, he was ok. He shouldn't have been out there in the 9th

[EvilJester99]

Good comeback for sure too bad the overall pitching sucked ass though...oh well bring on the BoSox...

[The Ginger Kid]

well he certainly didn't pitch good, he was ok. He shouldn't have been out there in the 9th 

 

yes, that was a mistake. Maybe Ozzie was trying to conserve the pen since Hermie's shut down right now? Not sure. I imagine he'll spew forth a reason when some intrepid beat writer asks him.

[GreatScott82]

well he certainly didn't pitch good, he was ok. He shouldn't have been out there in the 9th 

agreed cy garland. We have been spoiled by great pitching all year, and im used to freddy only giving up 3-4 runs. he gave up a lot of hits today and that is not like him. contreras didn't pitch good last nite and seeing BOTH Cotts and Pollite giving up hits in the SAME inning was unusual. It did look like our offense came alive in the 9th. Hopefully that carries into the Boston series.

[elrockinMT]

Reporter Asks: "What's the secret to winning?"

 

Manager: "To score more runs then the other team."

 

I guess we didn't do it today.

 

Oh well, there is tomorrow.

[SoxFan562004]

We get it.  Being happy with a 62-31 record is wrong.  Being sarcastically told that it was twice got the point across.  Having it done the third time is just annoying.

imagine how it feels to be told you should be happy with the record and not complain about 1,000 times

[Soxbadger]

I do not mind people making valid critiques.

 

But when they start saying Robertson is a nobody, it just detracts from any point they may have.

 

Its not like Robertson did not shut out the Rangers, or give up 1 run to the Yankees, and only 2 to the Red Sox.

 

SB

[CYGarland]

I do not mind people making valid critiques.

 

But when they start saying Robertson is a nobody, it just detracts from any point they may have.

 

Its not like Robertson did not shut out the Rangers, or give up 1 run to the Yankees, and only 2 to the Red Sox.

 

SB

I wasn't surprised that Douglass and Bonderman shut us down, but Robertson is a pitcher this team should beat, considering we pound lefties.

[Colorado Sox Fan]

I just hope we pound Boston so we don't have to hear from the Jack Asses at ESPN about how we can't beat anyone outside our division. At least I won't have to sit through a half hour of SportCenter to see White Sox highlights the next four days.

[CYGarland]

I just hope we pound Boston so we don't have to hear from the Jack Asses at ESPN about how we can't beat anyone outside our division. At least I won't have to sit through a half hour of SportCenter to see White Sox highlights the next four days.

I usually turn sportscenter on about half way through and wallah! Sox highlights!

[Flash Tizzle]

I wasn't surprised that Douglass and Bonderman shut us down, but Robertson is a pitcher this team should beat, considering we pound lefties.

 

Douglass was far from impressive. He may have shown superior location in previous starts, but what I observed was a pitcher missing his spots and hitters flailing away at crap in the dirt.

 

Honestly, he reminded me of a pitcher our organization would draft: low 90's fastball, low to mid 80's curveball. Except if he were sporting our jersey no team would be missing his meatballs.

 

Even Hawk, who's willing to conjure any excuse explaining a pitiful White Sox performance, thought our offense would hit Douglass hard unless he threw with pinpoint control. I didn't observe pinpoint control, but rather an offense confused by a soft-tossing pitcher with weak control and equally terrible 'stuff.'

 

This upcoming Boston series will be a great indication of where our offense stands against a playoff caliber team. If we're dominated, as we've been against Detroit's starters, no one can justify the offense with our record. Same holds true with the pitching.

Edited July 20, 2005 by Flash Tizzle

[The Ginger Kid]

Every team has rough stretches. The 1927 Yankees, long considered the best team ever with a record of 110-44, actually got swept by the lowly Indians in August. They hit some other bumps in the road too. Of course, they also had some mean win streaks, check it out!

 

'27 yanks

[Guest JimH]

Douglass was far from impressive. He may have shown superior location in previous starts, but what I observed was a pitcher missing his spots and hitters flailing away at crap in the dirt.

 

Honestly, he reminded me of a pitcher our organization would draft: low 90's fastball, low to mid 80's curveball. Except if he were sporting our jersey no team would be missing his meatballs.

 

Even Hawk, who's willing to conjure any excuse explaining a pitiful White Sox performance, thought our offense would hit Douglass hard unless he threw with pinpoint control. I didn't observe pinpoint control, but rather an offense confused by a soft-tossing pitcher with weak control and equally terrible 'stuff.'

 

This upcoming Boston series will be a great indication of where our offense stands against a playoff caliber team. If we're dominated, as we've been against Detroit's starters, no one can justify the offense with our record. Same holds true with the pitching.

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Insightful post, not sure I agree with all of it, but an excellent post.

 

I still think the Sox need a pesky bat ... a guy who can pinch hit, draw a walk, drop down a bunt, fill in for a few days, etc. Not too many of those types out there but I really hope KW is looking for a bench upgrade.

[CYGarland]

Douglass was far from impressive. He may have shown superior location in previous starts, but what I observed was a pitcher missing his spots and hitters flailing away at crap in the dirt.

 

Honestly, he reminded me of a pitcher our organization would draft: low 90's fastball, low to mid 80's curveball. Except if he were sporting our jersey no team would be missing his meatballs.

 

Even Hawk, who's willing to conjure any excuse explaining a pitiful White Sox performance, thought our offense would hit Douglass hard unless he threw with pinpoint control. I didn't observe pinpoint control, but rather an offense confused by a soft-tossing pitcher with weak control and equally terrible 'stuff.'

 

This upcoming Boston series will be a great indication of where our offense stands against a playoff caliber team. If we're dominated, as we've been against Detroit's starters, no one can justify the offense with our record. Same holds true with the pitching.

This team struggles against righties w/ good sliders, Douglass and Bonderman are those type of pitchers. This is why we need another LH bat BAD!!

[Flash Tizzle]

This team struggles against righties w/ good sliders, Douglass and Bonderman are those type of pitchers. This is why we need another LH bat BAD!!

 

If that's true, which I tend to believe, tomorrows start against Clement won't be too pretty. Ozzie may want to consider benching Thomas in place of Everett for DH.

 

Gload certaintly isn't our savior, but this is why his presense is needed on this ballclub. On days where our offense faces tough RH starters, Gload could replace Konerko. Just one extra, quality LH bat would help.