What Is Wrong With Rowand

[nitetrain8601]

Rowand for Ken Griffey Jr. I said it. Flame away if you want.

[Gene Honda Civic]

He got WAY overpaid for 1 good year and he has his money now, he is not really all that good and is on cruise control, I would trade him if someone would take him?

I don't think you have a very clear idea of what he would make on the free agent market. -- Aaron is struggling, yes. -- One thing he's not is overpaid.

[Soxpranos]

I believe Rowand will be a great 4th outfielder. Yes his defense is good, but we have guys in the minors who can be betetr on D. The thing that caought my eye and I caught allot of static about is his slugging percentage, I believe last year he had 41 doubles this yeat he's at 16? Maybe hes just trying to hit the long ball 2 much instead of just making solid contac and drving the ball where its pitched! I love the way he plasy the game all out, but looked up a stat and hes probablly one of the lowest producers in the 5 spot in MLB! Hope he can turn it around, I'll take doubles anyday, they just keep innings alive more than a homer!

 

Just my thoughts , Go Sox

Edited July 21, 2005 by Soxpranos

[Rowand44]

I don't think you have a very clear idea of what he would make on the free agent market.  -- Aaron is struggling, yes. -- One thing he's not is overpaid.

Bingo.

[fathom]

Rowand for Ken Griffey Jr. I said it. Flame away if you want.

 

I would be all for this deal right now. I don't care if Rowand is still trying to find his swing, it's been almost 100 games into the season. After a while, a player isn't struggling to find his swing...they're having a poor offensive season. I would love for Rowand to have a 2nd half like he did last year, but so far, he's had a very soft hitting season.

[The Ginger Kid]

Rowand for Ken Griffey Jr. I said it. Flame away if you want.

 

oh man, they'd never do it, but how sweet would that be??

[GoodAsGould]

oh man, they'd never do it, but how sweet would that be??

 

If they ate most of his contract id be all over that.

[The Ginger Kid]

If they ate most of his contract id be all over that.

 

Jerry said money is no option at this point. His words, not mine...

[YASNY]

Jerry said money is no option at this point. His words, not mine...

 

Yes he did, but that contract is nucking futs!

[Capn12]

That contract, in terms of yearly money, doesn't totally scare me off...but that sucker is backloaded with some serious change through the year 2025....20 MORE f***ING YEARS.

 

He makes a base of $12.5 million through 2008 with $6.5 million more a year in deferred money, with no interest until the contract expires after the 2008 season. Then he makes $6.5 million a year through 2025 at 4 percent compound interest.

 

That contract is quite simply, a financial nightmare. Acquiring Griffey is definately the definition of putting it all on the line to win it all this year.

[Soxfest]

I don't think you have a very clear idea of what he would make on the free agent market.  -- Aaron is struggling, yes. -- One thing he's not is overpaid.

 

Market is not that great for a 1 year wonder

[Rowand44]

Market is not that great for a 1 year wonder

Tell that to Eric Milton, Carl Pavano, Kris Benson, Jaret Wright. Now go look up the fact that Aaron is a career .288 hitter and one of the top defensive centerfielders in baseball.

[YASNY]

That contract, in terms of yearly money, doesn't totally scare me off...but that sucker is backloaded with some serious change through the year 2025....20 MORE f***ING YEARS.

That contract is quite simply, a financial nightmare. Acquiring Griffey is definately the definition of putting it all on the line to win it all this year.

 

Putting 20 years on the line. Or, at least, having that contract impact our payroll for 20 years. That's just crazy.

[Capn12]

Putting 20 years on the line.  Or, at least, having that contract impact our payroll for 20 years.  That's just crazy.

 

I too believe that, its just asking way too much for this organization to commit to something like that. Rowand is still servicable, and yes having a down year offensively. Fact is AaRow is a White Sox farm product, willing to do whatever it takes to get this team the W's. He does a very good job patrolling Centerfield. The price we got him locked in for the next 2.5 years, years that he should come into his prime, for $8.5 mill over 3 years.

 

That is NOT alot of money in the MLB market these days, for a guy who is our best defensive outfielder, and most times can hold his own at teh plate.

[CYGarland]

Even a .300 hitter fails 7 times to hit a ball.

 

But I understand the short term memory of a lot of fans, especially after a loss.

I think people are worried about his power production, as am i. 5 Hrs at this point in the season is some cause for concern from your 5th place hitter, I was expecting him to have another good year, at least similar to last. I didn't think .280 25hrs 80 Rbi's was out of the question. I am not sure what has happened to his Power #'s this year, i can only assume either he isn't trying to hit homers, although i remember him saying before the year started his goal was to hit 30! Or he's swinging at too many pitches low in the zone, resulting into more grounders. Or he's, dare i say, off the juice.

Edited July 21, 2005 by CYGarland

[GoodAsGould]

Tell that to Eric Milton, Carl Pavano, Kris Benson, Jaret Wright.  Now go look up the fact that Aaron is a career .288 hitter and one of the top defensive centerfielders in baseball.

 

Its funny how you mention all pitchers when we are talking about a non-pitcher..... Pitchers and position players are different when it comes to contracts. With hitters you have to prove yourself more. A course there are still expections like Adrian Beltre but his year last year was >>>> Rowands and he always had that much potential.

[WHarris1]

2 million is overpaid for a great defensive CF hitting over .280?

Edited July 21, 2005 by WHarris1

[Rowand44]

Its funny how you mention all pitchers when we are talking about a non-pitcher..... Pitchers and position players are different when it comes to contracts.  With hitters you have to prove yourself more.  A course there are still expections like Adrian Beltre but his year last year was >>>> Rowands and he always had that much potential.

Ya cause Beltre's making what 12 mill this year?? While Aaron's making 2. Beltre's always had potential and so has aaron though obviously more for Adrian. A lot of players get big money after 1 big year and Aaron's making 2 mill this year so it's not like kenny gave him a huge contract.

 

I'll add another hitter in there as well since I guess pitchers don't count......Victor Martinez.

Edited July 21, 2005 by Rowand44

[DBAHO]

Uribe makes more than Rowand in his 3 year deal. Just some food for thought.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Market is not that great for a 1 year wonder

Dude, you are Crazy. You have no clue what you are talking about. Rowand at his current level is a steal for anything less than $5M a year on the FA market

[YASNY]

Dude, you are Crazy. You have no clue what you are talking about. Rowand at his current level is a steal for anything less than $5M a year on the FA market

 

Absolutely. This ain't Timo we are talking about.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Dude, you are Crazy. You have no clue what you are talking about. Rowand at his current level is a steal for anything less than $5M a year on the FA market

Let's put it in terms you can understand... Mark Kotsay, just weeks ago, signed a contract extension that paid him $15M for two years.

 

Here are Kotsay's career numbers.

 

.285/.341/.422

 

and Rowand's

 

.289/.341/.456

 

They are defensive equals, maybe a slight nod to Kotsay. Kotsay is making 6.5M this year, and will make 7 M in 06 & 07, then & 8M in '08.

 

Rowand's three year contract was for 8.5M -- If you wanted to trade him, there would be 29 other teams beating down our door to take the guy off our hands at that price.

[Rowand44]

Let's put it in terms you can understand... Mark Kotsay, just weeks ago, signed a contract extension that paid him $15M for two years.

 

Here are Kotsay's career numbers.

 

.285/.341/.422

 

and Rowand's

 

.289/.341/.456

 

They are defensive equals, maybe a slight nod to Kotsay. Kotsay is making 6.5M this year, and will make 7 M in 06 & 07, then & 8M in '08.

 

Rowand's three year contract was for 8.5M -- If you wanted to trade him, there would be 29 other teams beating down our door to take the guy off our hands at that price.

Stop making sense

[Jordan4life_2007]

Stop making sense

 

 

You're just a Rowand homer.

[southsider2k5]

i guess you really don't watch the games after all.  like today, he threw towards third base when he had no business doing it and threw the ball away, costing freddy a run on the play when he shoulda thrown the ball to second to keep the dp in order.  last week, he did a similar thing where he shoulda thrown the ball in to second and instead tried to throw em out @ third and also backfired.  both times, he had little chance to get the lead guy and both times dj pointed it out.  and in this same series vs. the tigers, he threw a horrible throw to the plate when he had NO CHANCE, and the guy who got the hit took second on the throw.  he has to do the fundamental things right.  AND PLEASE BEFORE MAKING ANYMORE STUPID COMMENTS, WATCH A GAME OR TWO.

 

All right, so we are going for the lowest common denominator approach to arguing a point. Before you spew anymore ingnorance my way I think you should take your own advice a step further and watch more than a game or two yourself as your whole arguement is based on two stinking games! How ignorant is that? You are going to throw out this whole season and his career of being an excellent CF to make a snap judgement based on 3 whole plays. That's a real quality arguement. And if you feel the need to be a complete dumbass when you argue a point, find somewhere else to post.