Soxbadger Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Thats easy Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, Shingo, Timo for Reyes, Wright, Floyd We just have to tell the Mets that Beltran is not going to play unless they get another Boras client in Joe Crede, and then Beltran needs 2 friends in Uribe and Timo, because we know they are a positive influence on the latin players. And as for Shingo, he will be the Mets new closer and make Kaz Matsui learn how to field. It really is just a phone call away. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I've never looked at those chat things, but are these "insiders" really so dumb that they don't know the difference between there and their? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Do you guys think the Blue Jays forgot the whole David Wells for Mike Sirotka mess? KW really screwed Toronto there. (even though Wells sucked ass for us). I like this trade possibilty BUT i'm not sure if Toronto will work out another trade with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Do you guys think the Blue Jays forgot the whole David Wells for Mike Sirotka mess? KW really screwed Toronto there. (even though Wells sucked ass for us). I like this trade possibilty BUT i'm not sure if Toronto will work out another trade with us? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't believe that'd be a problem. Gord Ash is long gone from Toronto, entirely new regime up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) I've never looked at those chat things, but are these "insiders" really so dumb that they don't know the difference between there and their? im quite certain that they have someone that types for them. i dont think they type out there own answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:54 PM) Thats easy Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, Shingo, Timo for Reyes, Wright, Floyd We just have to tell the Mets that Beltran is not going to play unless they get another Boras client in Joe Crede, and then Beltran needs 2 friends in Uribe and Timo, because we know they are a positive influence on the latin players. And as for Shingo, he will be the Mets new closer and make Kaz Matsui learn how to field. It really is just a phone call away. SB ROTFLMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 How is Hilly an upgrade? Over Konerko maybe, but not Crede as a total package. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gives us a guy who can play 1b and 3rd base giving both Joe and Pauly a legit back-up.. Unless you loike Timo at 1st? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) Gives us a guy who can play 1b and 3rd base giving both Joe and Pauly a legit back-up.. Unless you loike Timo at 1st? That's yesterdays news. Everyone who wished so hard for Ross Gload to be up here got their wish. Frank is back on the DL, we have our backup 1B now. On to the next "crisis" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) That's yesterdays news. Everyone who wished so hard for Ross Gload to be up here got their wish. Frank is back on the DL, we have our backup 1B now. On to the next "crisis" Ross welcome back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 I just want some pitching. Right now the rotation of MB, Garland, Freddy and El Duque looks good in the playoffs, but is a question mark down the stretch. Not to mention our bullpen is going to get worn out if we keep using the same guys every day over and over. I really think we need to address any and all pitching needs before we go for a bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) Ross welcome back What if he pulls the ball his first three at-bats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) What if he pulls the ball his first three at-bats? The Casey Daigle fan club will reemerge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) What if he pulls the ball his first three at-bats? Ross is a line drive hitter. Unlike Paully Pull Baseball. Ross hits the ball to all fields. He hits like AJ used to before Greg worked on his swing with him. Maybe that is the reason they didnt want him up, he rejects our hitting instructors silly notions of being pull monkeys will low BA and low OBP. Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) He hits like AJ used to before Greg worked on his swing with him. That line has me rolling. well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Seriously AJ needs to stop pulling everything. His power alley is in left center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 i dont like the deal...and i dont even know who the sox would give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:36 PM) Do you guys think the Blue Jays forgot the whole David Wells for Mike Sirotka mess? KW really screwed Toronto there. (even though Wells sucked ass for us). I like this trade possibilty BUT i'm not sure if Toronto will work out another trade with us? That was with their old GM Gord Ash. Im sure JP would have no problems. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:28 PM) Seriously AJ needs to stop pulling everything. His power alley is in left center. Everyone says its not our hitting instructor that is telling them to pull the ball more. For me AJ is his most damning example. A career .288 hitter who is well known as being an all fields hitter. He comes to the sox, has a cup of Joe with Greg. They work on his swing a bit in spring training. Mid season we have great power numbers. Success But oddly a low BA for a good hitter. A guy who is well known as a good hitting catcher. But then again maybe its not Greg telling him to pull the ball like the rest of the team. Maybe its swamp gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) Everyone says its not our hitting instructor that is telling them to pull the ball more. For me AJ is his most damning example. A career .288 hitter who is well known as being an all fields hitter. He comes to the sox, has a cup of Joe with Greg. They work on his swing a bit in spring training. Mid season we have great power numbers. Success But oddly a low BA for a good hitter. A guy who is well known as a good hitting catcher. But then again maybe its not Greg telling him to pull the ball like the rest of the team. Maybe its swamp gas. But we are thirty some games over .500 so you have to love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) Hell yeah I'd do this trade if Konerko is in there. Contreras for Ted Lilly. We get a lefty who is better and cheaper. Hillenbrand could replace Konerko. He plays first and third and is hitting .297. AND basically Shingo and a prospect for Batista I don't see why ANYONE would want to give up Konerko in any deal that doesn't bring in a bat that is better than him. Our offense is not that good and losing Konerko for Hillenbrand only makes it worse. I hope to hell, and I think I'm right on this, Konerko isn't going anywhere this year. If we do land Hillenbrand, he'll be moving back to 3B, and not 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) I don't see why ANYONE would want to give up Konerko in any deal that doesn't bring in a bat that is better than him. Our offense is not that good and losing Konerko for Hillenbrand only makes it worse. I hope to hell, and I think I'm right on this, Konerko isn't going anywhere this year. If we do land Hillenbrand, he'll be moving back to 3B, and not 1B. Hllenbrand>Kong this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:28 PM) Seriously AJ needs to stop pulling everything. His power alley is in left center. This is inaccurrate. AJ said in an interview that until this year he has hit matbe one or two homers in his career to left or left center. I know this is a touchy subject but there are guys who are pull hitters and will always be pull hitters. You can't change it. These are guys who teams have used the "shift" against such as Bonds, Thome and to go way back Ted Williams. I'm not saying its for eveyone but people here have beaten this horse to ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(ptatc @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:14 PM) This is inaccurrate. AJ said in an interview that until this year he has hit matbe one or two homers in his career to left or left center. I know this is a touchy subject but there are guys who are pull hitters and will always be pull hitters. You can't change it. These are guys who teams have used the "shift" against such as Bonds, Thome and to go way back Ted Williams. I'm not saying its for eveyone but people here have beaten this horse to ashes. If our pull hitters hit like Bonds or Willliams there would be no complaints. Dead pull hitters that hit .240-.250 are fair game for horse beatings. Ortiz last nite was the perfect example. He adjusted his swing to go with the pitch and hit a line drive over crede's head. You have to adjust to where you are being pitched. If you don't you end up being Juan Uribe. Edited July 22, 2005 by marsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) Hllenbrand>Kong this year I disagree. Konerko is more reliable in the middle of the order than Hillenbrand is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:22 PM) I disagree. Konerko is more reliable in the middle of the order than Hillenbrand is. No he's not. The stats prove it. Hillenbrand .297 AVG / .360 OBP runner on .302 AVG / .363 OBP RISP .281 AVG / .350 OBP RISP w/ 2 out .261 AVG / .378 OBP bases loaded .333 AVG / .300 OBP Konerko .251 AVG / .350 OBP runner on .241 AVG / .335 OBP RISP .225 AVG / .346 OBP RISP w/ 2 out .140 AVG / .283 OBP bases loaded .429 AVG / .429 OBP Konerko dominates bases loaded but he only had 7 at bats with the bases juiced. Hillenbrand is a better player. He plays 1st and 3rd. Konerko has 10 HRs more but only 7 more rbi. Allot of his homers are solo and he sucks in the clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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