Greg Hibbard Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Clearly, he is career .2sucky average but enough pop to warrant an ML contract luckily for him he can play defense at least on most nights I'm just about done with this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) I'm just about done with this guy That's nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 stfu, you sound like a cubs fan... always whining. =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Valentin hits about .215. Joe at least hits mid 240s. That was his first error in FIFTY games. FIFTY. That's like our current lead in the division times five. Hang on. The ship aint sinking yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 No, Valentin hits more HRs, walks and strikesout more, and has a worse arm but more range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 compare the career avgs. compare the homers/season Joe Crede = Jose Valentin or at least approximates him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:01 PM) That's nice. I know, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 f*** it dude lets go Bowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Move this to "The Ledge" sub-forum (see, we need one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 I've supported this guy staunchly for 4 years and my support is severely wavering with every day he continues to post a .240something average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I've supported this guy staunchly for 4 years and my support is severely wavering with every day he continues to post a .240something average Hibbard, your third post on the topic was the charm. Your first post was snippy; I'd say this one was reasonable. As a Crede supporter, I love his glove (s*** he made a mistake flicking at that pop up that led to the Manny bomb). It was his first error in an obscene amount of games. I don't think we'd be happy if Randa was our everyday third baseman, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 well if it wasn't for crede tonight it would have been a close ball game. How? well after aj hit the homer with two outs crede went right to work and got a base hit. Jose would have just struck out or found some other way to get out. This allowed for uribe to come up and deliver as he has started to do lately. Joe crede doesn't give up with two outs so he is not like valentin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Joe Crede has hit .275 or over in 3 of the 4 months this season so far. Some food for thought. He also has an OPS over .820 in each of those months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Great posts. I think we're going to regret it if we dump Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I don't know how or why, but behind Frank, Crede's become my 2nd favorite player on the Sox. I have a real hard time hating the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) Move this to "The Ledge" sub-forum (see, we need one) That's an awesome idea LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much. Are we talkin' pre-'burns Crede or post-'burns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo Paz Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Crede's hitting over .300 with men on base! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(Carlo Paz @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 04:12 AM) Crede's hitting over .300 with men on base! REALLY? Seriously? Show me the stats (I believe you, but I want to see the splits anyway and I'm too lazy to look them up.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 By Situation AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 1B Only 48 2 15 2 0 1 3 1 1 8 1 1 .313 .340 .417 .757 On Second 20 6 9 3 0 2 8 4 0 2 0 0 .450 .542 .900 1.442 On Third 4 6 1 1 0 0 3 0 0 2 0 0 .250 .167 .500 .667 First and Second 17 4 4 0 0 2 8 2 0 3 0 0 .235 .316 .588 .904 First and Third 15 4 4 0 0 1 8 0 0 2 0 0 .267 .250 .467 .717 Second and Third 7 5 2 0 0 1 6 3 0 1 0 0 .286 .455 .714 1.169 Bases Loaded 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 None On/Out 64 4 17 4 0 4 4 2 2 8 0 0 .266 .309 .516 .825 None On, 1/2 out 104 2 18 5 0 2 2 4 4 16 0 0 .173 .232 .279 .511 Close and Late 51 7 15 2 0 2 7 5 1 10 0 0 .294 .368 .451 .819 None On 168 6 35 9 0 6 6 6 6 24 0 0 .208 .261 .369 .630 Runners On 114 28 35 6 0 7 36 10 1 19 1 1 .307 .357 .544 .901 Scoring Position 66 26 20 4 0 6 33 9 0 11 0 0 .303 .367 .636 1.003 Scoring Posn, 2 out 35 11 8 3 0 1 9 6 0 5 0 0 .229 .341 .400 .741 Men On, 2 out 52 12 14 4 0 1 9 6 1 10 1 1 .269 .356 .404 .760 Man on 3rd, Lead Off Inning 61 0 17 4 0 4 4 2 2 8 0 0 .279 .323 .541 .864 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) REALLY? Seriously? Show me the stats (I believe you, but I want to see the splits anyway and I'm too lazy to look them up.) I've got them for you.... "Any stat revolving around men on base; Crede>Konerko" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) I don't know how or why, but behind Frank, Crede's become my 2nd favorite player on the Sox. I have a real hard time hating the guy. I feel the exact same way, I don't want this icky feeling, I'm supposed to hate Joe Crede but for some reason I have become a fan of the guy. I just really can't find any reason to hate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Valentin could walk onto the set of any porno and find work in an instant. Crede - not so much. Psssh, with those sideburns Joe will get a job instantaneously! Edited July 23, 2005 by SoxFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 A month or 2 ago, people were calling for upgrades at 3B and SS as the main problem areas. Now it seems Uribe has become the main target for criticism in the Sox lineup, which at least shows Joe has picked it up offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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