fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) I wouldn't want Jones, How about Abreu? :rolly Actually, Brian Giles would be a nice acquisition. Giles is getting old. His bat speed isn't the same as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Miller, before the injury, was a damn good pitcher. However, he has nowhere near the same stuff. His velocity is way down, and his curve doesn't have near the bite it used to. He's not one of the worst pitchers, but he's not someone who should be shutting you out through 7 innings. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well you have a point, I'm certain he's not as good as he was before surgery, because he's still coming back. However, I am watching the game and to me, that curveball is nasty. Again, not making excuses for Sox hitting, but saying he is one of the worst pitchers is what prompted me to post. I guess it's just another in the ongoing long line of blanket statements made on this board, based on frustration and not looking at the situation objectively IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 WHO SAID PODS CANT PLAY DEFENSE?!?!?! NICE PLAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:20 PM) Giles is getting old. His bat speed isn't the same as it used to be. Giles is still one of the best hitters in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 If Pods would get some extra base hits he wouldn't have to steal so much, and Iguchi would have an easier time when he batted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(CYGarland @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:19 PM) I wouldn't want Jones, How about Abreu? :rolly Actually, Brian Giles would be a nice acquisition. Is Abreu a free agent b/c I don't think he is and there is no way the Phillies would trade him. Giles is good, but I think Petco inflates his numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) His curve has some serious bite tonight. He's definitely pitching a poor ballgame here though, our hitters just aren't hitting him for whatever reason. Just one of those games so far. Good thing is, we got 6 more outs. His curve last year was a lot more quick than the one he's throwing tonight. His curve tonight is more of a looping curve. What's just as concerning with the fact we haven't scored is that we're not hitting the ball hard at all now. Timo, Everett and Uribe especially look like s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Yeah, pitchers coming off shoulder surgery with a 5.00+ ERA heading into the game just screams "damn good." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Somehow I knew Captain 2nd Guesser would come up with the numbers. Learn the game, then come back and post. Are you watching what he's throwing? Or just doing your usual, which is 2nd guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) If Pods would get some extra base hits he wouldn't have to steal so much, and Iguchi would have an easier time when he batted. Pods is the least of our troubles in this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) Is Abreu a free agent b/c I don't think he is and there is no way the Phillies would trade him. Giles is good, but I think Petco inflates his numbers. Petco inflates his numbers? I think you're the first person to ever say that about a Padres hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) Giles is still one of the best hitters in baseball. I agree with you there, but will he still be one of the best in year 2 or year 3 of that contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:18 PM) He hasn't won a game in almost 2 months. But he does have a nice career record. Except he's nowhere near the pitcher he was in Houston. Miller is undeniably Boston's worst pitcher in their rotation. This game, he hasn't dazzled our hitters with overpowering stuff or location. His ERA is worse than Duque's, and this is not due to one poor outting which inflated his stats. He's simply that bad. There's no excuse to justify this performance other then the hitters beating themselves. I refuse to give him credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) Somehow I knew Captain 2nd Guesser would come up with the numbers. Learn the game, then come back and post. Are you watching what he's throwing? Or just doing your usual, which is 2nd guessing? I'm watching Miller, and I can't believe we're not putting better swings on his pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) Wow, Joe Crede with a good at-bat. \ carefull u might be put on ignore list! maybe it happends if u bash the great Rowand only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Matsui hasn't resigned with Yankees yet. Wouldn't mind us going after him for the Everett "rover" spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) Matsui hasn't resigned with Yankees yet. Wouldn't mind us going after him for the Everett "rover" spot. Yankees will resign him easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:22 PM) Petco inflates his numbers? I think you're the first person to ever say that about a Padres hitter. Looked at the numbers and your right, his numbers at home are much worse. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:23 AM) Matsui hasn't resigned with Yankees yet. Wouldn't mind us going after him for the Everett "rover" spot. He'll get a ton of money from somewhere. With the players we have in the minors, I'd rather we not spend a lot of money on outfield players. Our likely outfield is our typical starting outfield this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) \ carefull u might be put on ignore list! maybe it happends if u bash the great Rowand only? You're bashing rowand with nothing to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) Somehow I knew Captain 2nd Guesser would come up with the numbers. Learn the game, then come back and post. Are you watching what he's throwing? Or just doing your usual, which is 2nd guessing? Do you even know the meaning of 2nd guessing because your little discourse in the last couple of gamethreads makes me think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:22 PM) Pods is the least of our troubles in this lineup. I'm just saying he could save his body some pounding, and Iguchi would be probably appreciate not having to get himself in a hole giving him the opportunity to swipe second. He hit quite a few triples the last couple of years, and I think 19 homers. So he has shown he can drive the ball in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 We suck at offense. Lifeless swings, my god is this pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 When's the last time Pods got on base late in a close game? He seems to be a lot better earlier in the game? Does anyone know what he's hitting after the 6th inning this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I refuse to give him credit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Certainly your right, but I feel you're ignoring 1/2 of the equation. Sox hitters have missed some hittable pitches but this guy has made some very quality pitches too. I realize it's tough to give the opposing pitchers any credit whatsoever, I'm reticent to do so myself but this guy is doing a damn fine job of changing speeds. Just because a guy has a s***ty ERA doesn't mean he can't throw a good game, and this guy is throwing a good game, but granted with some help from Sox hitters not centering on good pitches to hit. Hopefully Franken2ndguesser reads this post and lets it sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) I'm just saying he could save his body some pounding, and Iguchi would be probably appreciate not having to get himself in a hole giving him the opportunity to swipe second. He hit quite a few triples the last couple of years, and I think 19 homers. So he has shown he can drive the ball in the past. When he started to try and drive the ball is when he got himself in trouble. Scotty's base stealing ability gives everyone in the lineup better pitches to hit. All you have to do is watch the pitcher when he's on the bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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