The AJ Burnett 24 Hour Window Thread

[southsideirish71]

And Hawk was slamming Marte yesterday. Maybe its my imagination, but Hawk never slams Marte, could he be preparing fans for his departure? One thing I can't understand about Marte is he has had a lingering arm problem this year. He comes off the DL and in almost every game since he has made an appearance or at least warmed up. I think there may have been 1 or 2 games tops where this wasn't the case. I would think they would be more catious with him.

 

Marte's problems are not the lingering arm problems. Its his mechanics. He had the same exact problem last year. He short arms the fastball rushing the delivery too much and the ball sails. This is why he broke Chavez's hand last year. Its why he doesnt feel comfortable going against lefties and gets deep into counts. When he follows through on his fastball its a crisp 94-95mph with movement in on righties away from lefties. When he short arms it, it sails into lefties and high and away. Its a Rick Ankiel type pitch. If you watch his meatballs, its always when he slows down his delivery a bit, and takes it down to 91 without any movement. He aims it at that point.

 

But I agree when Hawk starts to do a number on someone, HE GONE!!!!!

[daa84]

Looks like it is McCarthy and Marte for Burnett..Should be annouced Tuesday Morning. I read on another MB.. Take it for what it is worth..

which message board? did it seem legit?? gotta give us some more info here

[AnthraxFan93]

which message board? did it seem legit?? gotta give us some more info here

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Chicago bears MB , Someone at the trib called the Guy who is his friend, don't know the guy at all so I can .. Semes about 60% Legit.. I find out more information, and let you guys know.. I miss having a relative working at the paper.. Trades were so much easier to get info for!

[Milkman delivers]

35 minutes until Bruuuuuuuuuce is a liar...again.

[Dick Allen]

Marte's problems are not the lingering arm problems. Its his mechanics.  He had the same exact problem last year.  He short arms the fastball rushing the delivery too much and the ball sails.  This is why he broke Chavez's hand last year.  Its why he doesnt feel comfortable going against lefties and gets deep into counts.  When he follows through on his fastball its a crisp 94-95mph with movement in on righties away from lefties.  When he short arms it, it sails into lefties and high and away.  Its a Rick Ankiel type pitch.  If you watch his meatballs, its always when he slows down his delivery a bit, and takes it down to 91 without any movement.  He aims it at that point. 

 

But I agree when Hawk starts to do a number on someone, HE GONE!!!!!

 

Bad mechanics sometimes are a result of compensating for injuries. His arm has been bothering him for most of this season, and maybe some of last.

[YASNY]

There was never a 24 hour window. Levine said something could be done in the next 24 hours. I read somewhere where Florida was going to wait a couple of days before moving forward.

 

The only 24 hour window I was referring to was the thread title.

[Dick Allen]

The only 24 hour window I was referring to was the thread title.

That's what I was saying. The thread title was inaccurate.

[AddisonStSox]

That's what I was saying. The thread title was inaccurate.

 

Exactly, how is that?

 

Bruce said he expected something to be done within the next 24 hours. Never, and I repeat, never, did I once imply if the deal wasn't done within the next 24 hours it wouldn't get done.

 

Some of you folks b**** just for the sake of b****ing.

[daa84]

Some of you folks b**** just for the sake of b****ing.

thats 100% true. its sad and pathetic really

[Yoda]

Some of you folks b**** just for the sake of b****ing.

 

[Dick Allen]

Exactly, how is that?

 

Bruce said he expected something to be done within the next 24 hours.  Never, and I repeat, never, did I once imply if the deal wasn't done within the next 24 hours it wouldn't get done.

 

Some of you folks b**** just for the sake of b****ing.

 

You're the one b****ing. Levine said something could happen in the next 24 hours. Using the phrase 24 hour window implies the teams have 24 hours to get something done or that window is shut. Here's an example,if they give the Sox a 72 hour "window" to negotiate a contract extension, if that extension isn't agreed upon during that time, the negotiation would be terminated unless Burnett became White Sox property. I don't like Levine, and find some of his stuff incredibly inaccurate. But all he said was talks were serious and a deal could be struck in the next 24 hours. People on this thread are calling him a liar. He actually hasn't said anything that isn't true, even if no deal is eventually agreed to.

[AddisonStSox]

You're the one b****ing. Levine said something could happen in the next 24 hours. Using the phrase 24 hour window implies the teams have 24 hours to get something done or that window is shut.  Here's an example,if they give the Sox a 72 hour "window" to negotiate a contract extension, if that extension isn't agreed upon during that time, the negotiation would be terminated unless Burnett became White Sox property. I don't like Levine, and find some of his stuff incredibly inaccurate. But all he said was talks were serious and a deal could be struck in the next 24 hours. People on this thread are calling him a liar. He actually hasn't said anything that isn't true, even if no deal is eventually agreed to.

 

Here. This is for you. Now, do we all feel better?

 

 

EDIT: By the way, I've done nothing BUT defend Levine in this thread; if you could find some b****ing, I'd love to see it. The guy heard a deal would get done within the next 24 hours; I started a new thread in hopes of preventing an influx of repetitive Burnett threads for at least the next day or so. It didn't happen within the 24 hours Bruce mentioned, get over it.

Edited July 25, 2005 by AddisonStSox

[Milkman delivers]

You're the one b****ing. Levine said something could happen in the next 24 hours. Using the phrase 24 hour window implies the teams have 24 hours to get something done or that window is shut.  Here's an example,if they give the Sox a 72 hour "window" to negotiate a contract extension, if that extension isn't agreed upon during that time, the negotiation would be terminated unless Burnett became White Sox property. I don't like Levine, and find some of his stuff incredibly inaccurate. But all he said was talks were serious and a deal could be struck in the next 24 hours. People on this thread are calling him a liar. He actually hasn't said anything that isn't true, even if no deal is eventually agreed to.

 

I understood what he meant.

 

And take it easy. Nobody's calling for Levine's head. I think we're all just having a little fun with him being wrong again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bruce Levine sucks.

[Dick Allen]

Here.  This is for you.  Now, do we all feel better?

 

 

All I was saying was window implies deadline. Would you not agree?

[thedoctor]

all i know is the a.j. burnett 24-hour window is not going to be good for my work productivity today.

[Wedge]

Is Levine really wrong? As far as I can tell (Trib articles), it sounds like KW has made something like an official offer to the Marlins. They, in turn, are taking their time on making a decision. Something was done in the 24 hour window, it's just that the Marlins have neither accepted nor declined the trade.

[AddisonStSox]

Is Levine really wrong?  As far as I can tell (Trib articles), it sounds like KW has made something like an official offer to the Marlins.  They, in turn, are taking their time on making a decision.  Something was done in the 24 hour window, it's just that the Marlins have neither accepted nor declined the trade.

 

 

I can not believe we are discussing this. I mean, Soxtalk LOVES to get nitpicky, but the past page or so have taken it to heights the likes of which have never been seen.

[daa84]

 

I can not believe we are discussing this.  I mean, Soxtalk LOVES to get nitpicky, but the past page or so have taken it to heights the likes of which have never been seen.

seriously, can we maybe talk about how someone on here is reporting that the deal is done and will be reported tomorrow morning, as opposed to arguing about the timeframe of bruce levines reports and who was right who was wrong who was b****ing about it whether levine is wrose than gammons. sheeeeeeeesh

[SoxFanForever]

 

I can not believe we are discussing this.  I mean, Soxtalk LOVES to get nitpicky, but the past page or so have taken it to heights the likes of which have never been seen.

Oh really? I think you are the one nitpicking!!!!

[Kyyle23]

Bruce stopped just short of gauranteeing that Burnett would come to the Sox, rental or not. he was talking about how JR ok'ed adding a rental if it was necassary. He also talked pretty highly of Burnett, saying that Matt Clement told him that Burnett has more electric stuff than Prior, Wood, Beckett, anyone he has ever pitched with.

 

I think I read on chicagosports.com or benmaller.com that JR is going to ok a rental, it was KW who prefers to get him signed if possible.

[Guest JimH]

You're the one b****ing. Levine said something could happen in the next 24 hours. Using the phrase 24 hour window implies the teams have 24 hours to get something done or that window is shut.  Here's an example,if they give the Sox a 72 hour "window" to negotiate a contract extension, if that extension isn't agreed upon during that time, the negotiation would be terminated unless Burnett became White Sox property. I don't like Levine, and find some of his stuff incredibly inaccurate. But all he said was talks were serious and a deal could be struck in the next 24 hours. People on this thread are calling him a liar. He actually hasn't said anything that isn't true, even if no deal is eventually agreed to.

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I agree, things are fluid, things can change. Levine said last night he expects this to happen soon. He can report something one day and then things change on him. We are at a disadvantage because we listen to what he says and hold hm to it. Sometimes he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

 

My main objection is when he's so definitive about stuff, he really stepped in it on the Vizquel thing last winter, but hey, s*** happens. He is in a tough spot sometimes.

[AddisonStSox]

Bruce stopped just short of gauranteeing that Burnett would come to the Sox, rental or not.  he was talking about how JR ok'ed adding a rental if it was necassary.  He also talked pretty highly of Burnett, saying that Matt Clement told him that Burnett has more electric stuff than Prior, Wood, Beckett, anyone he has ever pitched with. 

 

I think I read on chicagosports.com or benmaller.com that JR is going to ok a rental, it was KW who prefers to get him signed if possible.

 

No. Effing'. Way.

[3E8]

Bruce stopped just short of gauranteeing that Burnett would come to the Sox, rental or not.  he was talking about how JR ok'ed adding a rental if it was necassary.  He also talked pretty highly of Burnett, saying that Matt Clement told him that Burnett has more electric stuff than Prior, Wood, Beckett, anyone he has ever pitched with. 

 

I think I read on chicagosports.com or benmaller.com that JR is going to ok a rental, it was KW who prefers to get him signed if possible.

This is good news to me.

[Guest JimH]

No.  Effing'.  Way.

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Heck I would be more worried if he gave his "100% My Reputation Omar Vizquel" guarantee.

[AddisonStSox]

Heck I would be more worried if he gave his "100% My Reputation Omar Vizquel" guarantee.