qwerty Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Just said that the Red Sox have offered Anibal Sanchez, Bronson Arroyo, and possibily a relief pitcher for Burnett and the Marlins haven't called back. He said the Marlins FO is still upset with the Sox management and the current favors to get Burnett are the White Sox enough though they don't have the bets offer on the table. He also said Burnett has said he won't sign a extension with any oter team but the Red Sox. Then the other guy said so Burnett has soem trade leverge. I can't believe that Beinefest and the front office are this stupid. IMO they are acting like Kids. The Red Sox have the best deal on the table. The deal is likely, Embree, Arroyo, Sanchez for Burnett and possibily Reed. I think Reed is only involved cause the Marlins are not very high on him and they will need to clear a roster spot if they acquire Ambree and Arroyo. IF Gammnons said that Sanxhez is in the offer then im 100% SURE that the Red Sox are offering him to us. For future reference the avearge age of posters and marlins baseball might be 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) I see absolutely no advantage in acquiring Burnett. Why give up a hot prospect (McCarthy) and a decent lefty (Marte) for an over-rated arm we don't really need. Marte hasn't been as good this year, but I really don't think we need a trade right now. Have you guys forgotten that we're 31 games over .500 right now? Why in the world would we want to change anything? 2001 Seattle Mariners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeFroman Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(soxfan3530 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) wow 47 pages and 36 members reading. damn all this speculation. this thing needs to get done so we can all move on with our lives. No kidding... I've got to take the bar exam tommorow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) I see absolutely no advantage in acquiring Burnett. Why give up a hot prospect (McCarthy) and a decent lefty (Marte) for an over-rated arm we don't really need. Marte hasn't been as good this year, but I really don't think we need a trade right now. Have you guys forgotten that we're 31 games over .500 right now? Why in the world would we want to change anything? We woulld want to change things to get better... but acquiring burnett will not improve us ... imo anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) I see absolutely no advantage in acquiring Burnett. Why give up a hot prospect (McCarthy) and a decent lefty (Marte) for an over-rated arm we don't really need. Marte hasn't been as good this year, but I really don't think we need a trade right now. Have you guys forgotten that we're 31 games over .500 right now? Why in the world would we want to change anything? We may be 31 games over .500 but we can always get better. And the only thing we'd really be changing is losing an expendable inconsistent arm out of the pen and gaining a more reliable starting pitcher and possible adding a little more infield depth with Lowell which is never a bad thing. I wouldn't call that a total makeover of the 25 man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkeymutt Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 but acquiring burnett will not improve us ... imo anyway. thats my opinion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) I see you double -posted. But this double-post was needed. f*** Peter Gammons I was shut out of the site due to "too many connections" while I was posting that reply. Whatever happened when i was shut out caused it to double reply, sorry bout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkeymutt Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 (edited) so if we get lowell, who will be sent down? edit: willie harris, i hope Edited July 25, 2005 by Bonkeymutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) so if we get lowell, who will be sent down? Willie Timo Gload Pick one. Edited July 25, 2005 by Kalapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) so if we get lowell, who will be sent down? willie f'n harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) so if we get lowell, who will be sent down? Probably our good buddy Gload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Gload even though he should be with this team. I'd take him over PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:41 PM) Willie Timo Gload Pick one. Willie. He's only here right now because of Crede's back situation. Lowell takes care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Any news/updates from the Score? So as far as we know we're still just negotiating what Florida will pay of Lowell's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Honestly, I don't see it happening. Especially with Burnett saying he won't resign. F' him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan13 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) Any news/updates from the Score? So as far as we know we're still just negotiating what Florida will pay of Lowell's contract? Just so you know, when/if something happens, EVERYONE is going to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) so if we get lowell, who will be sent down? It has to be Harris. The whole reason he was still up and Gload was down in the minors tearing it up was because of Crede's suspect back. Now if get Lowell, we'll have two other 3B and no need for Willie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) Especially with Burnett saying he won't resign. Was that just "Gammons Talk" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Currently 90 members on at this point... wow. I know soxtalk looks just like marlinsbaseball 95% of the time but right now they are talking really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkeymutt Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 i still dont understand why they want burnett, another starting pitcher. he might be fine as a spot starter and long relief... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Bonkeymutt @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) I see absolutely no advantage in acquiring Burnett. Why give up a hot prospect (McCarthy) and a decent lefty (Marte) for an over-rated arm we don't really need. Marte hasn't been as good this year, but I really don't think we need a trade right now. Have you guys forgotten that we're 31 games over .500 right now? Why in the world would we want to change anything? Hot prospect who has been nothing short of Garbage at the major league level. He is not ready to contribute yet, and we still dont know if he ever will. He hasnt proven anything and contributes nothing to the team at this point. Marte is the worst arm out of the pen at this moment, and can be replaced by the starter who will be displaced with AJB. AJB has more quality starts that JC and EL DUQUE and is showing improvement in his first full season back. He has the power arm that is coveted in the post season and can dominate. Lowell will spell relief for Crede as well as be an effective hitter against LH pitching, which we have lacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmookie Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 if burnett doesnt resign the sox could ship him to philly for wagner. apparently theyre saying they want burnett and theyd give wagner up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QUOTE(Ishmookie @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) if burnett doesnt resign the sox could ship him to philly for wagner. apparently theyre saying they want burnett and theyd give wagner up for him. I think the Phillies just recently took Wags off the block IIRC. Otherwise, that probably would have worked as the Phillies wanted Burnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I think i'm going to give up on there being a trade today, too close to game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 tonight, it will be announced. Watch for Damaso to not see the mound tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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