The AJ Burnett 24 Hour Window Thread

[Milkman delivers]

Thats exactly what he said 

 

I know, I'm pretty much agreeing with him while laughing at the other comment. Yeah, I now realize it looks wrong.

[Chisoxfn]

ESPN News has a Red Sox reporter on and says that despite reports, they aren't that hot after Burnett. Doesn't think Arroyo would make sense but mentions the Red Sox have some quality pitching prospects down in the minors.

 

Basically put, doesn't think the Red Sox are big on Burnett.

[daa84]

ESPN News has a Red Sox reporter on and says that despite reports, they aren't that hot after Burnett.  Doesn't think Arroyo would make sense but mentions the Red Sox have some quality pitching prospects down in the minors. 

 

Basically put, doesn't think the Red Sox are big on Burnett.

word is red sox dont wanna give up on many of their prospects either. they like alvarez and papelbon and ramirez too much. they have their world series now, and i dont think they wanna spend like hell, and are gonna try to build another championship the cheaper way

[Dick Allen]

I'm not against trading BMac by any stretch of the imagination. But if he doesn't get hurt he will be a very good pitcher in the major leagues. He's just a kid, a real tall skinny kid. He's going to sharpen his repetoire, he'll probably add a couple of MPH on the fastball, he's going to become wiser, he's just learning how to pitch. If Burnett had a history of great results rather than great stuff, I would do this deal in a heartbeat. But he made his debut in 1999 and at his best has performed a little better than average.

[beck72]

IMO, BMac is expendable because the sox already have 3 control pitchers as part of the rotation for the next few years. MB, JOn, and Freddy don't overpower opponents. BMac also relies on his control in order to be effective. While I don't think signing AJ to a long term deal is smart, it makes sense for this yr as the sox try to win it all

[Chisoxfn]

IMO, BMac is expendable because the sox already have 3 control pitchers as part of the rotation for the next few years. MB, JOn, and Freddy don't overpower opponents. BMac also relies on his control in order to be effective. While I don't think signing AJ to a long term deal is smart, it makes sense for this yr as the sox try to win it all

Disagree, Freddy is an overpowering pitcher.

[Ozzie Montana]

I think the red sox are concentratin more on J.C Romero because when Schilling is ready they'll probably put him in the rotaion and they can have J.C in the bullpen.

[SoxFan562004]

I think the red sox are concentratin more on J.C Romero because when Schilling is ready they'll probably put him in the rotaion and they can have J.C in the bullpen.

Yeah, I think Red Sox definitely need to improve both their pen and starters, and it would be easier to slide schilling into the rotation and add an arm then add a starter and hope Schilling succeeds in the closers role.

[Chisoxfn]

I think the red sox are concentratin more on J.C Romero because when Schilling is ready they'll probably put him in the rotaion and they can have J.C in the bullpen.

If they could pawn of Millar for Romero that would be a steal. Mueller for Romero makes some sense though. Twins have a really strong bullpen so I think they could overcome giving up Romero as well, although it could bite em in the ass.

 

BoSox could survive without Mueller or so I'd think. They like the Greek God of Walks (Youkalis).

[Rowand44]

I haven't read through this whole thread so this probably was mentioned. But I just woke up to the radio and Bruce said the Sox are closing in on a deal for Burnett but it's Damaso and Brian Anderson. To me that's a no brainer, I still stick by my guns that Damaso won't be traded unless Kenny has another left handed reliever lined up.

[Guest JimH]

I haven't read through this whole thread so this probably was mentioned.  But I just woke up to the radio and Bruce said the Sox are closing in on a deal for Burnett but it's Damaso and Brian Anderson.  To me that's a no brainer, I still stick by my guns that Damaso won't be traded unless Kenny has another left handed reliever lined up.

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Wow, new info. I like Marte and Anderson better than Marte and McCarthy.

 

Not that I don't like Brian Anderson, I do, but given the choice of hanging onto a starting pitching prospect vs. a starting OF prospect ... I deal the outfielder.

[Chisoxfn]

I haven't read through this whole thread so this probably was mentioned.  But I just woke up to the radio and Bruce said the Sox are closing in on a deal for Burnett but it's Damaso and Brian Anderson.  To me that's a no brainer, I still stick by my guns that Damaso won't be traded unless Kenny has another left handed reliever lined up.

Now thats a deal I'd do all day long.

[Rowand44]

Wow, new info.  I like Marte and Anderson better than Marte and McCarthy.

 

Not that I don't like Brian Anderson, I do, but given the choice of hanging onto a starting pitching prospect vs. a starting OF prospect ... I deal the outfielder.

Right, that's how I feel as well. I'd much rather hang onto bmac then anderson and that's nothing against Brian. I still say that if Damaso gets traded that Kenny will get another left handed reliever.

[AngelasDaddy0427]

Burnett is not going to replace Jose unless KW decides to use him at closer....

The only way KW should consider this deal is if he:

A) Knows El Duque is hurt and isn't going to last the season, shut him down basically.

B) Can flip him to the Phillies for Wagner like a human hot potato...

 

I'm sorry but no way is this guy worth 10 mil a year after not doing ANYTHING worthwhile in the majors...

I mean how do these guys get so much hype without doing anything... I mean he doesn't even have a hot wife like Benson so whats the deal....

[Chisoxfn]

I know one thing...Kenny doesn't want to deal Bmac. The question is will other teams step up and force him into it. Personally, I think he should just back out if thats the case cause like I said, when you break the deal down, its questionable as to the type of upgrade it is.

 

Had Duque pitched like piss last night, I'd be saying different things, but if its Contreras that Burnett replaces, I don't thin kthats a significant upgrade to the rotation. Of course if Contreras turns into a stud reliever, well than that would be something.

 

I like Burnett, just not sure I want to give up Bmac. I'd gladly deal outfield depth though (just not named Chris Young). My question is, does Fla really need an OF prospect?

[SoxFan1]

Hmmmm, a new spin on it. BMac stays, Anderson goes. Honestly, I'd do the trade either way but I would totally prefer giving up Anderson instead of BMac. With Sweeney and Young coming up, we could groom them into the outfielders of our future...

[Rowand44]

I like Burnett, just not sure I want to give up Bmac.  I'd gladly deal outfield depth though (just not named Chris Young). 

That's how I feel unless of course Burnett was then flipped for Wagner then while I'd still hate to part with Brandon I would do it.

[beck72]

Disagree, Freddy is an overpowering pitcher.

Freddy's K/ 9 rate says otherwise [though I agree, he can be lights out when his control is on, getting ahead of hitters and then they can't sit on a fastball. His fastball alone (94 mph] isn't overpowering.

 

But the thing is BMac's more of a FB pitcher. Both MB and Jon get their fair share of GB's. KW has talked about getting a diverse set of pitchers in the rotation. BMac falls more in line with what the sox have. Getting a strikeout pitcher [like Burnett] compliments what the sox already have. That's why it wouldn't surprise me to see BMac part of the trade to get a SP like Burnett

[SoxFan1]

I agree with you there Jas, why would the Marlins need an OF???? They have a loaded outfield with Pierre, Cabrera, and Encarnacion. They also have a few good OF in AAA. Hey, it's only better for the Sox...

[SoxAce]

Well I would rather deal Count than Marte but I'd prefer the Marte/Anderson deal as well.

[Chisoxfn]

That's how I feel unless of course Burnett was then flipped for Wagner then while I'd still hate to part with Brandon I would do it.

[Dick Allen]

Hmmmm, a new spin on it. BMac stays, Anderson goes. Honestly, I'd do the trade either way but I would totally prefer giving up Anderson instead of BMac. With Sweeney and Young coming up, we could groom them into the outfielders of our future...

Its not the deal, I think he mis heard it.

[SoxAce]

I agree with you there Jas, why would the Marlins need an OF???? They have a loaded outfield with Pierre, Cabrera, and Encarnacion. They also have a few good OF in AAA. Hey, it's only better for the Sox...

 

Encarnacion=trade bait.

[Chisoxfn]

Freddy's K/ 9 rate says otherwise [though I agree, he can be lights out when his control is on, getting ahead of hitters and then they can't sit on a fastball. His fastball alone (94 mph] isn't overpowering.

 

But the thing is BMac's more of a FB pitcher. Both MB and Jon get their fair share of GB's. KW has talked about getting a diverse set of pitchers in the rotation. BMac falls more in line with what the sox have. Getting a strikeout pitcher [like Burnett] compliments what the sox already have. That's why it wouldn't surprise me to see BMac part of the trade to get a SP like Burnett

He has hard stuff. He may not get the K's, but thats part of the reason why he's doing better this year. He's becoming a little less afriad fo the bats. However, if Freddy needs a K he can get it. Plus I tend to think anyone with a 94 MPH FB or higher can be over-powering, especially with Freddy's breaking stuff, which I think is as good as any other starters in baseball (If he ever learned to harness everything, Freddy could become one of the 5 best pitchers in baseball, imo).

[3E8]

I still remember how BMac was outdueling Mark Prior in Wrigley Field in his initial game until Ozzie pulled him too soon. 

I still remember him suffering massive beat downs by Texas, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay. I'm not saying whether trading him is right or wrong, but let's not label him untouchable because he held the Cubs at bay for five innings.