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still more doubters, i guess i shouldnt complain keep doubting us and then we will see you in october....

 

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=95142

 

Who are top Sox? Chicago's not scaring Boston

By Tony Massarotti/ Baseball

Monday, July 25, 2005 - Updated: 12:27 AM EST

 

CHICAGO - The best team in baseball resides on the infamous South Side of one of America's largest cities, but do not be fooled. The Chicago White Sox look a whole lot better on paper than they do in person. They are simply not that good.

 

  The White Sox defeated the Red Sox by a 6-4 score at steamy U.S. Cellular Field yesterday, earning a split of a four-game series in the latest Battle of the Soxes. The White Sox held the Red Sox to 17 runs in four games thanks largely to their starting rotation, something that more than one Red Sox player pointed out after the game.

 

  But the rest of the White Sox? Save the accolades. Chicago does not have one truly fearsome hitter in its lineup and the White Sox are running away with a division saturated with mediocrity. While the White Sox will almost certainly be in the playoffs when the major league regular season comes to an end in early October, it is hard to imagine that any team, player or fan will quiver at the idea of facing the White Sox in the postseason.

 

  ``They're a good team,'' Red Sox first baseman Kevin Millar said of the White Sox when asked his impressions following the first meetings between the teams this season.

 

  But no matter the record, they are clearly not a great one.

 

  None of that is meant to disparage the White Sox, particularly during a year in which there may be only one truly dominating team in baseball: the St. Louis Cardinals. Even then, St. Louis competes on the Four-A circuit known as the National League, where the pitchers bat and the lineups are shallower than Jessica Simpson. Everyone thought the Cardinals were dominating last year, too, right up until St. Louis got both steamrolled and embarrassed by the Red Sox in the World Series.

 

  Are the White Sox a good team? Sure. Starters Mark Buehrle and Jon Garland have been as effective a 1-2 punch as any in the game this season, though neither is the overpowering type. That fact could loom large come October, when power arms typically dominate and bats turn to ice.

 

After that, who really scares you on this staff? Orlando Hernandez? Jose Contreras? Dustin Hermanson? And for all of the politically correct blubber that comes out of professional locker rooms in this day and age, even the Red Sox gave a hint of their true feelings before this series began.

 

  ``They have tremendous starting pitching,'' Millar said. ``I don't know how far Hermanson's going to take them (as the closer), but with Buehrle, Garland, Hernandez, Contreras and Garcia, we've got to get a lead.

 

  ``They try to get a lead and they try to get their starting pitcher to go (deep into the game),'' Millar continued. ``Obviously, they've got (Paul) Konerko and Jermaine Dye and Frank Thomas who can hit the ball out, but we're not as worried about that. They're lower-average guys who can be pitched to.''

 

  Read closely, Red Sox followers: I don't know how far Hermanson is going to take them. . . . We're not as worried about that. . . . They're lower-average guys who can be pitched to.

 

  That was before the weekend series between the Red Sox and White Sox, remember.

 

  And based on the games of the last four days, there is little reason for any of us to change our minds.

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QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 08:34 AM)
still more doubters, i guess i shouldnt complain keep doubting us and then we will see you in october....

 

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=95142

 

 

Win one WS and you gain a false sense of reality. Nevermind the fact that we would easily be running away with it in their division. Everyone else in our respective diluted division has equal records as the east despite us running away with the lead.

 

Our top 3 teams vs. the East = 13 games above .500

Their top 3 teams vs. the Central = 4 games above .500

 

:chair :bringit

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What's funny about that is I worried about the Red Sox until we actually played them...they should hope they don't play us in the playoffs, because I don't see them beating us.

 

Fact is, we beat them 3 out of the 4 games...we had to GIVE them one. So...in saying that, this "writer" needs to realize their team only beat our team ONE time even though they escaped with 2 wins.

 

That only happens once.

 

Next time we won't be handing you a free win.

 

They have no real pitching, we do...and with all their bats, they would have only won 1 single game against us had we not made 3 errors in the first game.

 

So that Boston writer can chew on that, and phark my caa' across the street from the bhar.

 

He says they have no reason to worry?

 

Hah. Reverse that. After playing the fearsome Red Sox...I think we have no reason to worry.

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Fact of the matter is, we haven't won anything yet. And until we at least win a playoff series, you'll continue to see articles like this.

 

I believe that we're at least as good as the Red Sox, Angels, Yankees, etc. But I can't blame some people for having doubts. Either way, it would sure be nice if we can prove these guys wrong in the playoffs.

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"They try to get a lead and they try to get their starting pitcher to go (deep into the game),'' Millar continued.

 

Um...what team doesn't try to get a f***ing lead and have their starter go deep into the game to save their bullpen?

 

And remember...it doesn't take the highest payroll in baseball to win a World Series...just the 2nd highest. :)

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QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:02 AM)
"They try to get a lead and they try to get their starting pitcher to go (deep into the game),'' Millar continued.

 

Um...what team doesn't try to get a f***ing lead and have their starter go deep into the game to save their bullpen?

 

And remember...it doesn't take the highest payroll in baseball to win a World Series...just the 2nd highest.  :)

 

 

He and the rest of the BoSox groupies can go blow. To think they made a movie about these losers and we actually felt bad for these jags last fall. They are just as bad as the Yanks. I hope we sweep their asses in the playoffs.

 

 

I can see the headlines

 

:david The lowely Whitesox fall the giants of the great Chowda bay.

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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:34 AM)
He and the rest of the BoSox groupies can go blow.    To think they made a movie about these losers and we actually felt bad for these jags last fall.  They are just as bad as the Yanks.  I hope we sweep their asses in the playoffs. 

I can see the headlines

 

  :david The lowely Whitesox fall the giants of the great Chowda bay.

 

The best part about that is the script was to be about a guy who almost gives up his love for a losing team who can't make it to the WS. When they actually won it they re-wrote the script. I never felt bad for them.

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The Red Sox deserve respect. No doubt about it. They have an awesome line up and are the defending World Champs. But ... a few points:

 

1. I don't look for Thomas to be back, but Dye was missing, as was pointed out. He's a very solid ballplayer and his absence made our lineup that much weaker.

 

2. There's an old saying in baseball ... good pitching beats good hitting. We finally have the horses.

 

3. They seemed to be impressed with our starters but no mention of the bullpen. Seems to me they stranded a s*** load of runners. Me thinks the pen had something to do with that.

 

4. We did give them a game. No doubt. If they are counting on errors by Crede and Iguchi to beat us, let them. I'll take my chances.

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Well, that guy is an idiot. Uuum, he really has no right to say that the BoSox are better.

 

1.) We have a better record.

 

2.) We spilt the series.

 

3.) Our division is arguably a tougher division.

 

4.) We have a better record.

 

5.) Our defense is better.

 

6.) Our pitching is better.

 

7.) Other than Ortiz and Ramirez. They really have nobody offensively.

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Eh, don't let this bother you guys. The talk in Bawston all week was that they were going to come in and sweep. For being such a behemoth hitting team as Boston, what were the scores?

 

5-6 (3 errors)

8-4

0-3

6-4

 

Hmmm we had the single highest run output in a game, and outscored Boston by two runs over the course of the series. (19-17) What does that say about Boston? If our offense is so bad and strikes no fear into anyone, why did we outscore them?

 

That writer was just blowing smoke...

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QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 01:51 PM)
Eh, don't let this bother you guys.  The talk in Bawston all week was that they were going to come in and sweep.  For being such a behemoth hitting team as Boston, what were the scores?

 

5-6 (3 errors)

8-4

0-3

6-4

 

Hmmm we had the single highest run output in a game, and outscored Boston by two runs over the course of the series. (19-17)  What does that say about Boston?  If our offense is so bad and strikes no fear into anyone, why did we outscore them?

 

That writer was just blowing smoke...

Because our f***ing pitching staff rawks! And it is gonna get better soon! ;) :notworthy :gosox3: :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang :headbang

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QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:46 AM)
Kevin Millar continues to act like a f***ing dips***.  Wow, who would have ever guessed his numbers would go down once steroids were banned from the game?  I was told a few years ago he was one of the biggest abusers in baseball.

 

Millar is a f*ing scab, anyway.

 

Listen, this team won't get respect until it wins something. Be that sweeping a team like Boston or the Yankees, or a playoff series or whatever. Baseball fans have been conditioned by ESPN, FOX, et al, to put the AL East first. Minnesota never got any respect, either, and the AL West might as well not exist to anyone living east of the mountain time zone.

 

Ultimately, this whole deal will be decided on the field, not by people writing pedestrian columns with poorly argued points. But Kevin Millar said so! Until then, let them disrespect the White Sox. I imagine it will serve as great motivation for Ozzie and crew.

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the White Sox are running away with a division saturated with mediocrity.

 

Really? Well then, explain me the fact that the mediocre Central has a better overall winning percentage than the East. Or how the Central is 13 games over that mighty AL East. Even the goddam Royals are above .500 vs the AL East this year, you f***ing tool.

 

Oh and what about Freddy Garcia? Yeah thats right, we have plenty more than Buerhle and Garland but you don't care to mention him. I personally guarantee he's 10 times better than any starting pitcher on the Red Sox.

 

And then he goes on about our dire need of a better closer. Oh god, that just about killed me.

 

That was the most ignorant piece of garbage I have ever read.

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