palesox38 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I'm sure by now all of you have heard that the Sox are interested in Aubrey Huff, but according to Jayson Stark, that deal would also include Danys Baez. He also stated that the sox want to make that trade as well as trade for Burnett. I say do it. Many may say that it effects chemistry too much, but I think thats a little over-rated. It would be great to pick up Huff, Burnett, and Baez. Two potential blockbusters. What a statement that would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I'm sure by now all of you have heard that the Sox are interested in Aubrey Huff, but according to Jayson Stark, that deal would also include Danys Baez. He also stated that the sox want to make that trade as well as trade for Burnett. I say do it. Many may say that it effects chemistry too much, but I think thats a little over-rated. It would be great to pick up Huff, Burnett, and Baez. Two potential blockbusters. What a statement that would be! As much as I like all 3 players, that's not going to happen. Huff's the one I'd want most out of those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) I'm sure by now all of you have heard that the Sox are interested in Aubrey Huff, but according to Jayson Stark, that deal would also include Danys Baez. He also stated that the sox want to make that trade as well as trade for Burnett. I say do it. Many may say that it effects chemistry too much, but I think thats a little over-rated. It would be great to pick up Huff, Burnett, and Baez. Two potential blockbusters. What a statement that would be! Im iffy on this. Chuck Lamar overprices his guys and I think a deal with a bunch of MLB'er involved isnt too smart of an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backman Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 It all depends on what we have to give up. No way all that would come cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 If we did all these moves, you could say bye to McCarthy, Anderson, and Sweeney or Young, and likely a few more players. Basically, all these moves aren't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Wow, that would suck IMO. We'd be getting my 2nd choice in each position. I'd rather have Schmidt, Overbay, and Wagner before any of the 3 mentioned. In fact I don't want any of the 3 mentioned there. I'd rather keep what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backman Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 It seems to dangerous, Burnett already wont resign with us, say we dont win the WS, we might end up with no future and for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Whew! Add Ron Villone to that list, and I think I just lost control of my sphincter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Wow, that would suck IMO. We'd be getting my 2nd choice in each position. I'd rather have Schmidt, Overbay, and Wagner before any of the 3 mentioned. In fact I don't want any of the 3 mentioned there. I'd rather keep what we have. Seriously? Would you be that disappointed in that? Huff is going to produce big in the second half as he always does. I'm not too hot on Baez, but he can't be worse than Viz. Burnett, from what everyone says about him, would be a big upgrade and a power pitcher in the playoffs. Overbay would be good, Schmidt would be good... but is this BAD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 12:31 AM) Seriously? Would you be that disappointed in that? Huff is going to produce big in the second half as he always does. I'm not too hot on Baez, but he can't be worse than Viz. Burnett, from what everyone says about him, would be a big upgrade and a power pitcher in the playoffs. Overbay would be good, Schmidt would be good... but is this BAD? I honestly dont like it. Huff Get Burnett and Overbay and I'm happy. Im sticking to these guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Seriously? Would you be that disappointed in that? Huff is going to produce big in the second half as he always does. I'm not too hot on Baez, but he can't be worse than Viz. Burnett, from what everyone says about him, would be a big upgrade and a power pitcher in the playoffs. Overbay would be good, Schmidt would be good... but is this BAD? I wouldn't mind picking up Huff, but I don't think it's worth it. His defense at 3rd is brutal. He's another 1B/DH. With that said, Overbay is clearly better because he is hitting better and fits in better with what this offense needs. Baez would be a minimal improvement on the team and would have a minimal impact in the playoffs. Burnett would NOT be a big upgrade, it's that simple. I don't trust him to be a significant upgrade in the AL. He's pitching in a big pitchers' park at the moment and would shift to a big hitters' park. That ERA of his would jump up, not to mention a shaky health history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) If we did all these moves, you could say bye to McCarthy, Anderson, and Sweeney or Young, and likely a few more players. Basically, all these moves aren't happening. The Devil Rays don't need OFs. They have Young, Crawford, Gomes, Gathright, Baldelli. You might see one of Anderson or Sweeney end up in Tampa Bay. but I would think a more likely scenario would see McCarthy, or other good pitching prospects heading that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Considering they got Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambtano, I highly doubt we get Huff and Baez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I will turn into a Cubs fan for a day if both trades were to happen. That's how confident I am that they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I am not high on Huff, Baez ok and Burnett is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 04:37 AM) The Devil Rays don't need OFs. They have Young, Crawford, Gomes, Gathright, Baldelli. You might see one of Anderson or Sweeney end up in Tampa Bay. but I would think a more likely scenario would see McCarthy, or other good pitching prospects heading that way. I guarantee you that if Damon doesn't resign with the Red Sox, they'll trade for Baldelli. Young and Crawford are the only guaranteed members of their offense. Gomes is more of a DH. Tampa doesn't have the money to go out and sign a FA starting pitcher. They need to have prospects to trade in order to get the starter, and they'll have no problem bringing in more outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) I guarantee you that if Damon doesn't resign with the Red Sox, they'll trade for Baldelli. Young and Crawford are the only guaranteed members of their offense. Gomes is more of a DH. Tampa doesn't have the money to go out and sign a FA starting pitcher. They need to have prospects to trade in order to get the starter, and they'll have no problem bringing in more outfielders. Even assuming Baldelli gets dealt and Gomes doesn't play in the outfield, that still leaves them with Crawford, Young, and Gathright. They won't need prospects to get starters because they'd be likely to get at least one in our deal (probably McCarthy, maybe Tracey), and that would most likely be what they'd seek in your proposed trade of Baldelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 04:52 AM) Even assuming Baldelli gets dealt and Gomes doesn't play in the outfield, that still leaves them with Crawford, Young, and Gathright. They won't need prospects to get starters because they'd be likely to get at least one in our deal (probably McCarthy, maybe Tracey), and that would most likely be what they'd seek in your proposed trade of Baldelli. If we were to get Huff and Baez, we'd have to give up McCarthy, Sweeney, and another top prospect (Fields). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Huff is hitting close to .300 in the past month with 8 homers. He's just starting to heat up as usual. He's signed through next year for anyone who wants to make Konerko expendable. Burnett is a groundball pitcher as I made the argument to acquire him in the offseason when he was supposedly available then. Therefore I don't think his era would jump THAT much except what is to be expected from an NL to AL switch. Basically I'd be happy acquiring Huff or Overbay and Burnett or Schmidt. I see Huff and Overbay as very similar hitters. Huff has more power, Overbay has slightly better BA (career wise here). We're gonna have to overpay for either one IMO. Burnett, right now, has better stuff than Schmidt and may not have filled out all his potential. Schmidt's still not pitching as well as he has the past couple years. Schmidt is signed next year and has playoff experience which Burnett does not. Both will cost a similar amount in terms of talent, but we'd probably be able to keep Contreras in the deal with the Marlins. Either way, I think these moves would benefit the Sox this year. At the end of the year if we don't go all the way, you don't wanna have to say, "what if...?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzo2733 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I'm sure by now all of you have heard that the Sox are interested in Aubrey Huff, but according to Jayson Stark, that deal would also include Danys Baez. He also stated that the sox want to make that trade as well as trade for Burnett. I say do it. Many may say that it effects chemistry too much, but I think thats a little over-rated. It would be great to pick up Huff, Burnett, and Baez. Two potential blockbusters. What a statement that would be! I can see this happening. I was just talking to my buddy about the Sox and Cubs (he's a Cubs fan) and I kind of started thinking that I would not be surprised if we got Burnett and then Kenny followed it up with a trade for a reliever. I bet he already has something in the works for the bullpen if we indeed give up Marte. So I can definitely see two big trades happening very quickly. I'll say it again though- Guardado is my guy. We need him. Kenny, let's get this done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palesox38 Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(mrzo2733 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) I can see this happening. I was just talking to my buddy about the Sox and Cubs (he's a Cubs fan) and I kind of started thinking that I would not be surprised if we got Burnett and then Kenny followed it up with a trade for a reliever. I bet he already has something in the works for the bullpen if we indeed give up Marte. So I can definitely see two big trades happening very quickly. I'll say it again though- Guardado is my guy. We need him. Kenny, let's get this done. I agree with you on Guardado. I think he is awesome. But I guess if we can't get him or Wagner, Baez is the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(mrzo2733 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) I can see this happening. I was just talking to my buddy about the Sox and Cubs (he's a Cubs fan) and I kind of started thinking that I would not be surprised if we got Burnett and then Kenny followed it up with a trade for a reliever. I bet he already has something in the works for the bullpen if we indeed give up Marte. So I can definitely see two big trades happening very quickly. I'll say it again though- Guardado is my guy. We need him. Kenny, let's get this done. You're right on top of things, aren't ya? :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzo2733 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 12:18 AM) You're right on top of things, aren't ya? :rolly Wait, I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Here's some interesting numbers...take 'em as you see it: Schmidt w/ RISP BAA .281 (last year: .180) home/away era 4.46/4.63 Burnett w/ RISP BAA .262 (last year: .261) home/away era 3.42/3.51 Everett BAA lefties/righties .321/.234 (career .256/.283) Konerko BAA lefties/righties .192/.280 (career .291/.272) Overbay BAA lefties/righties .263/.298 (career .288/.292) Huff BAA lefties/righties .257/267 (career .284/.293) Rowand and Dye are better against righties than Everett and better against lefties than Konerko Huff and Overbay look like everyday players. Konerko/Everett platoon= potential huge blowup... more righties=more AB's for Konerko. Otherwise it's wait and see if Konerko/Everett can break out of their respective funks or wait and see if Thomas can play again this year. Both would be taking chances, and I don't think Kenny wants to take any chances this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(mrzo2733 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 01:26 AM) Wait, I don't get it. I'm picking on you a bit. Burnett, followed up by a reliever has been discussed here for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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