Bmr31 Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Look the Sox have been treading water since July of 2000. They were 55-30 at their high water mark then went .500 the rest of the year if you include the playoffs. 83-79 in 01 and 81-81 last year IIRC. We are 15-15 at this point. The promise of 00 is fading fading. I agree with those who say that if we tank this year we are looking at a long dark tunnel. This season is important darnit!! (it's Sunday ) For those who call for patience I say we have had an infinite amount of patience. For those who say it is early I say it is agonizingly late. 44 years and counting on one clock, and 86 years and counting on another. For those who want to slam me I'm as passionate a Sox fan as anybody. The team, the city, the history, the whole ball of wax. I'm just tired, weary and after all this waiting and patience and rooting it's about time to do it!!!! Two points. One, REAL sox fans SHOUlD be pissed and passionate. If you are not I question your commitment. Two, The Angels did start something like 9-16 last year, so the its early theories are correct. I just think the sox are an average team and 15-15 is not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 A couple of years ago, when Oakland got off to one of their slow starts and Art Howe was about to be fired, the A's made several moves at one time and sent 3 or 4 players to AAA to wake them and the team up. I don't recall who all of them were, but one of them was former Sox farmhand Frank Menechino. If I recall they also traded Jeremy Giambi right at the same time. Apparently shaking up the team that way worked for them. Could it work here? Send a few guys down, if only temporary, to make things uncomfortable (in a different way than they already are) in the clubhouse? Trade a guy that is not performing, whether he is liked or not? May seem extreme, but is it more extreme than firing the manager for the team's lack of production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 A couple of years ago, when Oakland got off to one of their slow starts and Art Howe was about to be fired, the A's made several moves at one time and sent 3 or 4 players to AAA to wake them and the team up. I don't recall who all of them were, but one of them was former Sox farmhand Frank Menechino. If I recall they also traded Jeremy Giambi right at the same time. Apparently shaking up the team that way worked for them. Could it work here? Send a few guys down, if only temporary, to make things uncomfortable (in a different way than they already are) in the clubhouse? Trade a guy that is not performing, whether he is liked or not? May seem extreme, but is it more extreme than firing the manager for the team's lack of production? That would be called leadership. The sox management are a bunch of pussies. No way theyd do something like that. Theyd rather play it "safe". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 A couple of years ago, when Oakland got off to one of their slow starts and Art Howe was about to be fired, the A's made several moves at one time and sent 3 or 4 players to AAA to wake them and the team up. I don't recall who all of them were, but one of them was former Sox farmhand Frank Menechino. If I recall they also traded Jeremy Giambi right at the same time. Apparently shaking up the team that way worked for them. Could it work here? Send a few guys down, if only temporary, to make things uncomfortable (in a different way than they already are) in the clubhouse? Trade a guy that is not performing, whether he is liked or not? May seem extreme, but is it more extreme than firing the manager for the team's lack of production? That would be called leadership. The sox management are a bunch of pussies. No way theyd do something like that. Theyd rather play it "safe". Pardon me for thinking outside the box. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 A couple of years ago, when Oakland got off to one of their slow starts and Art Howe was about to be fired, the A's made several moves at one time and sent 3 or 4 players to AAA to wake them and the team up. I don't recall who all of them were, but one of them was former Sox farmhand Frank Menechino. If I recall they also traded Jeremy Giambi right at the same time. Apparently shaking up the team that way worked for them. Could it work here? Send a few guys down, if only temporary, to make things uncomfortable (in a different way than they already are) in the clubhouse? Trade a guy that is not performing, whether he is liked or not? May seem extreme, but is it more extreme than firing the manager for the team's lack of production? Something has to happen one way or another . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 A couple of years ago, when Oakland got off to one of their slow starts and Art Howe was about to be fired, the A's made several moves at one time and sent 3 or 4 players to AAA to wake them and the team up. I don't recall who all of them were, but one of them was former Sox farmhand Frank Menechino. If I recall they also traded Jeremy Giambi right at the same time. Apparently shaking up the team that way worked for them. Could it work here? Send a few guys down, if only temporary, to make things uncomfortable (in a different way than they already are) in the clubhouse? Trade a guy that is not performing, whether he is liked or not? May seem extreme, but is it more extreme than firing the manager for the team's lack of production? That would be called leadership. The sox management are a bunch of pussies. No way theyd do something like that. Theyd rather play it "safe". Pardon me for thinking outside the box. LOL LOL! Hey if i were running the show, heads would roll. Too bad i am not, i could use the salary increase!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Guys.. Jerry isn't going anywhere. Kenny isn't going anywhere. I don't like it, you don't like it. But it's fact. If that's the case, too bad. If this Organization doesn't care, why should we ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 If that's the case, too bad. If this Organization doesn't care, why should we ? That's the exact question I have been asking myself of late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Has anyone noticed that whenever we get down by several runs, Hawk and DJ go into a rehearsed dialogue about how talented the Sox are? Seems like if we were so talented, we wouldn't be getting our ass kicked so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 That's the exact question I have been asking myself of late... That's the sort of thing that could have a snowball effect. The Cell could look like Clevelands Municipal Stadium in the late 80's and early 90's. Empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Our team is talented. They just don't give a s*** it seems. That is a notion that seems to flow through the organization. I am wondering more and more if they will do anything or just let this team sit around the .500 mark and let one of the other teams take the division and leave us in the dust. I am getting really tired of this "it is early" "we just need warm weather" bull s***. Every other team is scoring runs. Especially teams that were struggling seem to get it together against us. It is getting old fast and the season is just over a month in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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