IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Just my opinion, but i don't like Everett hitting 3rd, and i haven't for a while. I think he's been riding this "hot streak" to start the year for too long, and i think Ozzie likes him a bit too much. He also seems to strike out way too much with runners on. I just don't see him as the 3 hitter we need the rest of the way, and in the playoffs. I'd like to see Dye take over in the 3rd spot. He's been very hot for a while now and has been a better hitter than Everett the past few years. Overall, i think he has much more potential to flourish in the 3 hole than Everett. While i'm at it, i don't see why Rowand bats 7th batting close to .290 with all these s***ty averages in front of him. I realize the power numbers aren't up to snuff, but at least the guy is hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Thank you for posting this I forgot to comment on this. I hate Carl in the 3 hole. I love Carl, awesome guy, clutch...not a 3 hitter on a world series team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Right now i'd put dye in the 3 hole, he seems to be the most consistent of the other candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) Everett should be moved down; I agree with that. This is going to end up turning into a tweak the lineup thread, and I just have to say one thing. Pods and Gooch should be the 1-2 in every lineup that is going to be written out in the rest of this thread. Yes, Gooch could have better numbers in a different spot in the lineup, but he's the only one that's going to have the success rate and patience to do what he's done behind Pods this year. Edited August 3, 2005 by greasywheels121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 When he's on, he is on. But the reverse is just as... , how can I say, drastic. He goes in the worst slumps when he is struggling and I heard Bill Melton metion this last week that it usually lasts 7-10 days but for Carl it goes on longer cause thats the way he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Leave ARow where he's at. The only other place I'd want him in the lineup is 2nd...and that ain't gonna happen with Gooch. Oz really doesn't have a whole lotta choice right now...and I really dont' wanna see who bat's third by who's hot...if that's the case...hell...bat AJ 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxfan56 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 i think give arow a shot or put arow 2nd and iguchi 3rd so he can show off his power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) Everett should be moved down; I agree with that. This is going to end up turning into a tweak the lineup thread, and I just have to say one thing. Pods and Gooch should be the 1-2 in every lineup that is going to be written out in the rest of this thread. Yes, Gooch could have better numbers in a different spot in the lineup, but he's the only one that's going to have the success rate and patience to do what he's done behind Pods this year. Yeah Greasy it probly will turn into that. However, i agree with your 1-2 punch. But with the division in hand, i think now is the time to tinker if you're going to tinker, see what works, and have the best lineup possible for the playoffs. If we're 2 up in the division, it may be a weird time to start shuffling guys around. Seems like Everett hits a long one once in a while, otherwise it's an out, and not even a productive out with a guy on 3rd. Thing is, we already have one of those guys behing him in Konerko. You have to break them up. Furthermore, your 3 hitter is usually your best all around hitter. Is Carl really that guy on our team? I just don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I think A row would awaken in the 3-hole id like to see him and evert switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I don't think Carl is even in the top 5 of hitters on our team. He's bad against righties, first off...Secondly, his pultry ~.300 OBP and .749 OPS in the 3 hole is ridiculous for a team that has 69 wins. Both AJ and Dye would be better in the 3 hole. Both trounce Carl's OBP and OPS. Dye has my vote....We could sure use a big time DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 We might all think a change should be made.....but Ozzie isn't changing s***, as long as we're winning games. I'm not sure I want either Rowand or Everett batting 3rd. Rowand hasn't shown me much of an ability at all this season to knock in runs. How long before someone brings up Huff in this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:19 PM) We might all think a change should be made.....but Ozzie isn't changing s***, as long as we're winning games. I'm not sure I want either Rowand or Everett batting 3rd. Rowand hasn't shown me much of an ability at all this season to knock in runs. How long before someone brings up Huff in this thread? Post 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:20 PM) Post 12. Very well played. Anyway, get over any other guys coming in to help this lineup. Let's just figure something out with the guys we have, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 04:20 AM) Post 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 04:22 AM) Very well played. Anyway, get over any other guys coming in to help this lineup. Let's just figure something out with the guys we have, eh? Just for the record, I wasn't saying that we needed Huff for this lineup. It was clear once that Manny trade was proposed that there was no way the Sox were going to give up as much as they wanted for Huff/Baez. Ozzie isn't going to take Everett out of the 3rd hole, as he likes going lefty/righty as much as he possibly can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) Just for the record, I wasn't saying that we needed Huff for this lineup. It was clear once that Manny trade was proposed that there was no way the Sox were going to give up as much as they wanted for Huff/Baez. Ozzie isn't going to take Everett out of the 3rd hole, as he likes going lefty/righty as much as he possibly can. I know, i know. Going righty/lefty just for the sake of going righty/lefty doesn't do too much. Besides, Everett is switch. If he really wanted to do that, he could do something like Dye/Pierz/Konerko/Everett. I'm not suggesting it, though. Although it's not terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 04:30 AM) I know, i know. Going righty/lefty just for the sake of going righty/lefty doesn't do too much. Besides, Everett is switch. If he really wanted to do that, he could do something like Dye/Pierz/Konerko/Everett. I'm not suggesting it, though. Although it's not terrible. Just so you know, Ozzie was on the pregame show today saying that the reason he put Blum in the 8 hole was so he could go lefty/righty. Something that makes me worry about Everett is that he'll try to hard to produce with Frank out. He had a massive uppercut going in his swing tonight. At least he's not swinging and missing at everything like he was a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Just so you know, Ozzie was on the pregame show today saying that the reason he put Blum in the 8 hole was so he could go lefty/righty. Something that makes me worry about Everett is that he'll try to hard to produce with Frank out. He had a massive uppercut going in his swing tonight. At least he's not swinging and missing at everything like he was a few months ago. Interesting, i didn't hear that. I don't disagree with doing it if it works. Causes matchup problems. However, i find it odd he'd be worried about his 7/8/9 hitters going r/l/r. I doubt any bullpen is going to be worried about using 3 relievers at the bottom of our lineup. I didn't think anything of it when i saw the lineup, i just figured Blum fit into the 8th hole tonight, nothing more. And yeah, i'm worried about Everett's approach at the plate as well. Edited August 3, 2005 by IlliniKrush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:04 AM) i think give arow a shot or put arow 2nd and iguchi 3rd so he can show off his power I agree with this. Iguchi is probably the best hitter we have average-wise. He has wasted a lot of at-bats bunting and swinging at balls outside the strike zone so that Pods can steal. A-Row can be a #2 guy easily. He has the experience of years past in the #2 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Ugh, messing with the top of the order is the worse possible thing to do(and by top of the order I mean 1 and 2). Carl's not the best three hitter in the world and Jermaine probably should be up there but Carl's been clutch as all hell this year and ozzie likes him in that slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Lineup should be: Pods Gooch Dye Paulie AJ Everett Arow Crede Uribe Against tough lefties ... same lineup ... don't screw around with all that. When there is a tough righty, all the righties still bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Aug 2, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) I know, i know. Going righty/lefty just for the sake of going righty/lefty doesn't do too much. Besides, Everett is switch. If he really wanted to do that, he could do something like Dye/Pierz/Konerko/Everett. I'm not suggesting it, though. Although it's not terrible. Don't you dare let the manager from the Northside hear you say that. Lee BURNITZ Ramierz ...are you kidding me? :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 i think this thread screams, make your lineup: Podsednik Iguchi Dye Konerko Everett AJ Rowand Crede Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) i think this thread screams, make your lineup: Podsednik Iguchi Dye Konerko Everett AJ Rowand Crede Uribe These guys get on Pods Gooch These two are good fastball hitters that should get fastball counts because of Gooch and Pods on base Arow Dye These guys wouldnt hurt us as much. If they are on they get runners to drive in, if they are not Arow and Dye have good ops to drive in the run ahead of them. Kong Everett Here is a solid last part of the lineup AJ Crede Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Pods Guci Rowand Dye Hot Carl Pauly AJ Uribe Crede I have spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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