CWSOX45 Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Just got back from work from Kane County Stadium, where the Single A affiliate of the Oakland A's play. These guys are fundamentally sound in every aspect of the game. I can't remember the last time I've seen a franchise with such fundamentally sound players as the A's. The game was tied 4-4 in the bottom of the 10th. One man on first, and the batter lays down a perfect bunt down the first base line. The runner eventually moves to third and the catcher Jon Sumoni tries to take the ball into right field and hits it through a hole. Cougars win 5-4. If only the Sox played fundamental baseball, it would take them a long way. The Cougars are currently in first place with a record of 22-8. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 You know what they say, winning starts with the fundamentals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 You know what they say, winning starts with the fundamentals. ...and continues with advanced mental development, culminating in exceptional, pure talent. Unless those guys have at least 2 out of 3, no chance they see the Big Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 CWSOX: Do their outfielders hit the cut-off men, or do they throw over their heads like Daubach did last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 CWSOX: Do their outfielders hit the cut-off men, or do they throw over their heads like Daubach did last night. Ouch baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Just got back from work from Kane County Stadium, where the Single A affiliate of the Oakland A's play. These guys are fundamentally sound in every aspect of the game. I can't remember the last time I've seen a franchise with such fundamentally sound players as the A's. The game was tied 4-4 in the bottom of the 10th. One man on first, and the batter lays down a perfect bunt down the first base line. The runner eventually moves to third and the catcher Jon Sumoni tries to take the ball into right field and hits it through a hole. Cougars win 5-4. If only the Sox played fundamental baseball, it would take them a long way. The Cougars are currently in first place with a record of 22-8. CWSOX45 I remember a team that played like that...... The 2002 Southern League Champion Birmingham Barons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Then the Barons no doubt had some decent coaching. Part of coaching is instructing, and part is correcting when you do something incorrectly. Just about everybody will occasionally do something fundamentally wrong sometime; it just needs to be corrected on the spot so it doesn't happen again. You know, like Little League. I doubt very much if JM corrects anybody when they do wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 I doubt very much if JM corrects anybody when they do wrong. He does..... in closed door meetings that aren't helpful or productive to the team at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Then the Barons no doubt had some decent coaching. Part of coaching is instructing, and part is correcting when you do something incorrectly. Just about everybody will occasionally do something fundamentally wrong sometime; it just needs to be corrected on the spot so it doesn't happen again. You know, like Little League. I doubt very much if JM corrects anybody when they do wrong. Yes, but it also takes guys willing to give themselves up and willing to sacrifice for the good of the club. The Barons bunted a lot last year, and it didn't matter if it was the cleanup hitter or not. You won't get away with that in the Majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted May 5, 2003 Author Share Posted May 5, 2003 CWSOX: Do their outfielders hit the cut-off men, or do they throw over their heads like Daubach did last night. They're part of the Oakland farm system, if they didn't hit their cut off man they'd be benched. Our franchise is a joke compared to Oakland's. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Man but the Cougars have torn it up for the last decade as part of the Marlins organization. The list of former Cougars who are now major leaguers is pretty impressive. Notables: Antonia Alfonseca Josh Beckett Joe Borowski AJ Burnett Luis Castillo Ryan Dempster Alex Gonzalez (the good one) Jimmy Haynes Charles Johnson Mark Kotsay Kevin Millar Vladimir Nunez Julio Ramirez (haha just a joke) Edgar Renteria Randy Winn Greg Zaun You could put together a halfway decent major league baseball team with this bunch... as long as Jerry Manuel wasn't managing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 QUOTE You know what they say, winning starts with the fundamentals. ...and continues with advanced mental development, culminating in exceptional, pure talent. Unless those guys have at least 2 out of 3, no chance they see the Big Show. Can someone help me out. Does anyone understand what this stuff means? signed Sox Management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 I love that CW. But such an inning wont ever happen under Manuel. If we do get guys to first and third like we did last night the next guy will try to pull and well fail like usual. This team is incompetent of playing small ball to their advantage. That is why we need Backman as the manager. JM relies on the long ball, and while that is exciting it just doesnt get the job done. Backman, while getting the longball occasionally, will use steals and bunts to let us score a good percent of the times we get a man on base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted May 5, 2003 Author Share Posted May 5, 2003 Man but the Cougars have torn it up for the last decade as part of the Marlins organization. The list of former Cougars who are now major leaguers is pretty impressive. Notables: Antonia Alfonseca Josh Beckett Joe Borowski AJ Burnett Luis Castillo Ryan Dempster Alex Gonzalez (the good one) Jimmy Haynes Charles Johnson Mark Kotsay Kevin Millar Vladimir Nunez Julio Ramirez (haha just a joke) Edgar Renteria Randy Winn Greg Zaun You could put together a halfway decent major league baseball team with this bunch... as long as Jerry Manuel wasn't managing them. Right. The Marlins single A affiliate was here before moving last year, now the A's have come into town and are just rolling. If only the Sox played like this...... CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 QUOTE You know what they say, winning starts with the fundamentals. ...and continues with advanced mental development, culminating in exceptional, pure talent. Unless those guys have at least 2 out of 3, no chance they see the Big Show. Can someone help me out. Does anyone understand what this stuff means? signed Sox Management LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Yes, but it also takes guys willing to give themselves up and willing to sacrifice for the good of the club. The Barons bunted a lot last year, and it didn't matter if it was the cleanup hitter or not. You won't get away with that in the Majors. recent Trib article, Frank was talking about bunting again - I am anxious to see him do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 he should..he could bunt a rocket down the 3rd base line and the 3rd baseman will be so deep he could beat it w/o a throw i dont how much this translates to playing in the major s but when played ball whenever i slumped (which was alot ) i always thought bunting a few t imes here and there help me start seeing the ball better and helped get my timing back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 he should..he could bunt a rocket down the 3rd base line and the 3rd baseman will be so deep he could beat it w/o a throw i dont how much this translates to playing in the major s but when played ball whenever i slumped (which was alot ) i always thought bunting a few t imes here and there help me start seeing the ball better and helped get my timing back he should bunt - at a home game though, as that would really make it worth the price of admission! Whatever works - it is not how long the hit, it is getting on base and getting the hitting going - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 At least we aren't the Cubs system. What I've seen of their Lansing A team, isn't all that great. After all it is the team they send players after killing animals on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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