tonyho7476 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) No way.. I'd lose for sure with the starting punch of "your picture is next to the word stupid in the dictionary..." Way too intellectual for me.. :rolly *jab* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:40 AM) KW and the Reds GM agreed to the trade, but b/c it involved money, he had to get permission from ownership, who vetoed it. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) *jab* No, sarcasm. Stop pot stirring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Cincinnati ownership is in a serious mess, they had all those players supposedly available and couldn't get anything done besides the Randa deal. Aurelia has been chomping at the bit to get traded and they probably could've extracted more for him at the deadline. The Sean Burroughs thing is very interesting, he's a bat control type of guy, I would love to get him for Borchard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) Sean is in the minor leagues. More insurance I guess. I'd be thrilled with this move. Burroughs will never develop into the player the Pads thought he was, but he's still capable of turning into a good role player and could still turn into an average 3rd baseman. Not a bad insurance plan, especially since Borch will be leaving the org at the end of the year. Very interesting on the Griffey front. Giving up Young would of sucked, but I think I'd of made that deal, especially since they were getting a decent portion of the contract paid. Who knows, it could still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) I'd be thrilled with this move. Burroughs will never develop into the player the Pads thought he was, but he's still capable of turning into a good role player and could still turn into an average 3rd baseman. Not a bad insurance plan, especially since Borch will be leaving the org at the end of the year. Very interesting on the Griffey front. Giving up Young would of sucked, but I think I'd of made that deal, especially since they were getting a decent portion of the contract paid. Who knows, it could still happen. Now that this is out, I don't think NY or Boston would let Griffey get through waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) I'd be thrilled with this move. Burroughs will never develop into the player the Pads thought he was, but he's still capable of turning into a good role player and could still turn into an average 3rd baseman. Not a bad insurance plan, especially since Borch will be leaving the org at the end of the year. Very interesting on the Griffey front. Giving up Young would of sucked, but I think I'd of made that deal, especially since they were getting a decent portion of the contract paid. Who knows, it could still happen. How does the whole waiver thing work? How would a deal to get Griffey still work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) I'd be thrilled with this move. Burroughs will never develop into the player the Pads thought he was, but he's still capable of turning into a good role player and could still turn into an average 3rd baseman. Not a bad insurance plan, especially since Borch will be leaving the org at the end of the year. Very interesting on the Griffey front. Giving up Young would of sucked, but I think I'd of made that deal, especially since they were getting a decent portion of the contract paid. Who knows, it could still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:51 AM) Now that this is out, I don't think NY or Boston would let Griffey get through waivers. Would Griffey's no-trade play any part in this though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Is an official list ever made of who has cleared waivers? And if so, when does it come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Would Griffey's no-trade play any part in this though? I would assume that if he was claimed, and the claiming team could not get Griffey to waive his no-trade, the Reds would have to revoke waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) Would Griffey's no-trade play any part in this though? Not with waivers. If Cincy lets him go, he is gone. Honestly I don't think either team has the money for him, especially the Yankees. Even with all of the pitching problems they had, they weren't even RUMORED to be involved in anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) Cincinnati ownership is in a serious mess, they had all those players supposedly available and couldn't get anything done besides the Randa deal. Aurelia has been chomping at the bit to get traded and they probably could've extracted more for him at the deadline. The Sean Burroughs thing is very interesting, he's a bat control type of guy, I would love to get him for Borchard. If you look before this year. He had a good average, decent OBP and a good doubles rate. He hits righties a lot better than lefties. He is fast and hit leadoff for the the Padres a bit last year. Imagine if he could play SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Props to Kenny for going after it. It would've been fun. Any way he'd clear waivers? if anyone might clear waivers, it would be griffey and his big contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) Now that this is out, I don't think NY or Boston would let Griffey get through waivers. He probably already has gone through. I don't think there's the smallest chance either of these teams would risk having to take the entire portion remaining on his contract to block the White Sox from maybe acquiring him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Not with waivers. If Cincy lets him go, he is gone. Honestly I don't think either team has the money for him, especially the Yankees. Even with all of the pitching problems they had, they weren't even RUMORED to be involved in anything. I really believe that Griffey could have shot down even a straight waiver claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 The Yankees are desperately looking for a CF and have boatloads of money, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) The Yankees are desperately looking for a CF and have boatloads of money, correct? Sadly I think this is correct. The Yanks who have gobs of money and want a CF would grab Griffey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) The Yankees are desperately looking for a CF and have boatloads of money, correct? Where do you get they have boatloads of money? If they had that much money laying around, why wouldn't they have gone after a real pitcher at the deadline instead of Shawn Chacon, Al Lieter, and Hideo Nomo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) Where do you get they have boatloads of money? If they had that much money laying around, why wouldn't they have gone after a real pitcher at the deadline instead of Shawn Chacon, Al Lieter, and Hideo Nomo? The Yankees have never been afraid to spend money. If George can get a HOF like Ken Griffey to play in NY, I think he would be willing to spend $14 million on him. Heck, I would spend $14 million on him if I were JR just because he brings excitment and talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Where do you get they have boatloads of money? If they had that much money laying around, why wouldn't they have gone after a real pitcher at the deadline instead of Shawn Chacon, Al Lieter, and Hideo Nomo? Exactly. Their payroll is $208 million. Their revenue sharing and luxury tax bill is around $100 million. They are about tapped out. If they could afford bringing Griffey on, he'd be in pinstripes right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 George Offerman is on the Score talking about how his "sources" are telling him that KW was close to a major deal. His "sources" told him it may have been Griffey or Dunn. George's "sources" are a browser and google. What a sham he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:03 PM) George Offerman is on the Score talking about how his "sources" are telling him that KW was close to a major deal. His "sources" told him it may have been Griffey or Dunn. George's "sources" are a browser and google. What a sham he is. He is completely useless SoxTalk>Offman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) The Yankees have never been afraid to spend money. If George can get a HOF like Ken Griffey to play in NY, I think he would be willing to spend $14 million on him. Heck, I would spend $14 million on him if I were JR just because he brings excitment and talent. Its more than $14 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) The Yankees have never been afraid to spend money. If George can get a HOF like Ken Griffey to play in NY, I think he would be willing to spend $14 million on him. Heck, I would spend $14 million on him if I were JR just because he brings excitment and talent. I know the Yankees history, but if they had so much money, why wouldn't they have put together a cash and players deal for the cashpoor Marlins, AJ Burnett? Their actions at this deadline don't fit their history at all, and I think there is a reason for it. I think they are finally at their spending limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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