Gene Honda Civic Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) Waivers just might be the most complicated single aspect of the rules. In the rule book, a waiver is defined as "... a permission granted for certain assignments of player contracts or for the unconditional release of a Major League player ..." If a player placed on Major League waivers is not claimed by another team during the three business days after waivers have been requested, then the players is said to have "cleared waivers," and the team has secured waivers for the remainder of the waiver period. And what does that mean? Essentially, the team can do with the player's contract as it pleases. This generally means one of three things: (1) They can send him to the minors (subject to his consent, if he's a "Veteran Player," more on that below). (2) They can release him, which makes the player a free agent and thus available to sign with any team. (3) They can trade him to another team, even if the so-called "trading deadline" has passed. Any trades made after July 31 may only involve players who have cleared waivers. If a player doesn't clear waivers -- in other words, if he's claimed by another team or teams -- the club requesting waivers may withdraw the waiver request. If the club doesn't withdraw the waiver request, the player's contract is assigned in the following manner: (A) If only one claim is entered, the player's contract is assigned to that claiming club. (B) If more than one club in the same league makes claims, the club currently lower in the standings gets the player. © If clubs in both leagues claim the player, preference shall always go to the club in the same league as the club requesting waivers. There are other, more esoteric rules involved here. For example, during the first 30 days of the season, the previous season's final standings are used to determine claim order, rather than the current standings. Edited August 3, 2005 by Gene Honda Civic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 So confising so I the sox want to claim him no other team can and if anyother do then they cant get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro1983hat Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 For argument's sake, if the Reds wanted to put Jr. through the waiver process, when could they do that? Is there a waiver deadline, like the trading deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Let's say a guy like Griffey is put on waivers and nobody claims him but the Sox. Now the Sox & Reds agree on a trade involving Young, Rogowski and a fringe prospect. Wouldn't Young, Rogowski and the prospect also have to clear waivers before they can be traded to the Reds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) Let's say a guy like Griffey is put on waivers and nobody claims him but the Sox. Now the Sox & Reds agree on a trade involving Young, Rogowski and a fringe prospect. Wouldn't Young, Rogowski and the prospect also have to clear waivers before they can be traded to the Reds? Only players on the 40-man roster would have to clear waivers.... That means rogo, who has no shot of clearing waivers. The Sox would have to put together a package with guys who don't need to be protected yet. (Young, Valido, Sweeney, Anderson, Liotta, Gio) all fit this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 That stinks. Okay, so when would a Griffey be put on the waiver wire?? And if the player could only be on waivers for 3 days, then why isn't the waiver deadline the first 3 days of August or August 16th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Also, couldn't the White Sox just trade Young, the lower tier guy and a PTBNL and complete the trade in the offseason including Rogo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pods70Rowand33 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 what if the player has a no trade clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) Let's say a guy like Griffey is put on waivers and nobody claims him but the Sox. Now the Sox & Reds agree on a trade involving Young, Rogowski and a fringe prospect. Wouldn't Young, Rogowski and the prospect also have to clear waivers before they can be traded to the Reds? Rogowski would...therefor he's no longer on the board cause he's currently on the club's 40 man roster. However, they could have interest in Honel. Problem is, now isn't a good time to trade Kris, since his value is currently as low as it will be. I think after he kicks butt for the remainder of the season, than his trade value will be back up at least somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 3, 2005 -> 05:45 PM) That stinks. Okay, so when would a Griffey be put on the waiver wire?? And if the player could only be on waivers for 3 days, then why isn't the waiver deadline the first 3 days of August or August 16th? There is no waiver deadline. This can go on till the end of the season. However, if a player is not on your roster by Aug 31, then he is ineligible for post season play. That works as kind of a deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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