Official College Football Thread

[Brian]

Wisconsin already lost to Iowa.  Plus Sparty is capable of beating anybody with that offense.  Wisconsin is out of the Big Ten Championship picture.

 

My goof, I thought Wisc had two conference loses after today but they have 3. A Penn State loss and a Michigan win gives them another Big 10 title. Shocking with the way they played the first few games.

[greasywheels121]

Heads will be quite happy, when he returns.

[Heads22]

We are undefeated when a tornado hits Ames.

 

Brent Curvey, unstoppable.

[Rex Hudler]

I can't see Michigan getting a BCS slot. I could see Ohio State getting one, but not Michigan with three losses.

 

Alabama, VA Tech and even Oregon would likely get the extra BCS at-large before Michigan. Penn State will not lose to Michigan State so you can erase that dream.

 

Pencil in Michigan for either the Capitol One or Outback Bowl.

[Gene Honda Civic]

either way Penn State is in.  Also if Michigan does make the BCS Wisconsin will go to the Capitol One Bowl because they have never been their and it is Barry's last year.

So the Cap one would have a choice between OSU and Wisconsin, and they would choose Wiscy because it's Barry's last year? Pulease.

 

We get it. You think Michigan walks on water. tOSU is the spawn of the devil. But let's be realistic. Cap One will take the Buckeye every time.

[Heads22]

So, ISU may be looking at Alamo if they win out.

[Heads22]

Turn it to SportsCenter to see some awesome plays from the ISU game.

[Heads22]

That sucked.

[whitesoxfan101]

The one problem with these silly premises from Michgan fans that they will win the Big 10, and that is that Michigan State pretty much quit after the painful losses to TOSU and Michigan (except for a win against Indiana, but hey, they are Indiana for a reason). Penn State is a screw job from the clock operator at the Big House from being 12-0, and will shut down the Spartans offense, making this argument a moot point. Plus, TOSU is a superior team to Michigan and will beat them anyways.

 

Ok, that rant may not have been necessary, but Michigan football fans are just plain silly with their unrealistic optimism sometimes. Oh, and changing subjects here....were you at the game Head? And if so, what was the "evacuation to the basketball arena" scene like?

[whitesoxfan101]

Also, the BCS may consider themselves "victorious" this year since Texas and USC are going to be the only 2 undefeated teams, but the system still sucks. Nobody can convince me or any other logical fans that they know for sure USC would beat Miami on a neutral field, or that Texas would beat Penn State on a neutral field, or that LSU couldn't beat any of them, etc etc.....

 

To get to the title game, you have to be in a group of half a dozen or so really good teams nationally, and then be one that's in a down coference that year. The Big 12 is flat out weak this year, and the PAC 10 has USC, and then Oregon is a pretty good team that has benefitted from beating on the bottom of the conference, and UCLA has an awesome offense that wins 50-40 games, and the rest of that conference blows.

 

God I hate the BCS, but a playoff is never going to happen.

 

*end unnecessary rant #2*

[Rex Hudler]

Theoretically a playoff will begin next year with the "+1". Unless they have monkey brains, they will have to seed the teams and play 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 or else it won't make sense.

 

But the fact they added a 12th regular season game this year, all but kills the chances for an 8-team playoff. To do so, they would need to cut the season down by a game and once you put that revenue of the 12th game into place, there is no way they will take it away.

 

I, for one, have no problem with the current system. I also had no problem with the old system either. The whole college football season is basically one big playoff. It brings excitement every week. Every game means something. People talk and argue about which teams are better, which makes it great.

 

The only change I would make, is to scrap the BCS formula and have the bowls (top 4 teams) be chosen by a selection committee, similar to the basketball tournament.

[White Sox Josh]

The one problem with these silly premises from Michgan fans that they will win the Big 10, and that is that Michigan State pretty much quit after the painful losses to TOSU and Michigan (except for a win against Indiana, but hey, they are Indiana for a reason).  Penn State is a screw job from the clock operator at the Big House from being 12-0, and will shut down the Spartans offense, making this argument a moot point.  Plus, TOSU is a superior team to Michigan and will beat them anyways.

 

Ok, that rant may not have been necessary, but Michigan football fans are just plain silly with their unrealistic optimism sometimes.  Oh, and changing subjects here....were you at the game Head?  And if so, what was the "evacuation to the basketball arena" scene like?

WTF are you talking about. It should've been 4 seconds added to the clock not 2. Michigan won that game fair and square.

[Brian]

Plus, TOSU is a superior team to Michigan and will beat them anyways.

 

You must not be a fan of history. Whenever Michigan and Ohio State plays and one team has to win to win the Big 10, it never happens. Almost eerie.

[THEWOOD]

Yeah I bet you wish Cooper was making an appearance this Saturday.

[Heads22]

The Top 25 teams in the Associated Press poll, updated Nov. 13, with first-place votes in 

parentheses, 2005 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one 

point for a 25th-place vote and previous ranking.

1.	 Southern Cal (56)	10-0	 1,616	 1

2.	 Texas (9)	 10-0	 1,569	 2

3.	 Miami	 8-1	 1,483	 3

4.	 LSU	 8-1	 1,418	 5

5.	 Penn St.	 9-1	 1,334	 6

6.	 Notre Dame	 7-2	 1,246	 7

7.	 Virginia Tech	 8-1	 1,214	 8

8.	 Alabama	 9-1	 1,176	 4

9.	 Ohio St.	 8-2	 1,163	 10

10.	 Oregon	 9-1	 1,022	 11

11.	 Auburn	 8-2	 963	 15

12.	 UCLA	 9-1	 876	 14

13.	 West Virginia	 8-1	 837	 16

14.	 Georgia	 7-2	 780	 9

15.	 TCU	 10-1	 719	 18

16.	 Fresno St.	 8-1	 632	 20

17.	 Michigan	 7-3	 607	 21

18.	 Louisville	 7-2	 486	 23

19.	 South Carolina	 7-3	 402	 —

20.	 Florida	 7-3	 325	 12

21.	 Texas Tech	 8-2	 319	 13

22.	 Florida St.	 7-3	 173	 17

23.	 Boston College	 7-3	 154	 —

24.	 UTEP	 8-1	 124	 —

25.	 Wisconsin	 8-3	 104	 19

Others receiving votes: Minnesota 98, Oklahoma 95, Iowa St. 86, Virginia 31, Clemson 24, 

Colorado 21, Iowa 7, Georgia Tech 6, California 5, UCF 5, Toledo 2, Boise St. 1, Northwestern 1,

South Florida 1.

 

The Top 25 teams in the USA Today coaches' poll, updated Nov. 13, with first-place votes 

in parentheses, 2005 records, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one 

point for a 25th-place vote and previous ranking:

1.	 USC (55)	 10-0	 1,543	 1

2.	 Texas (7)	10-0	 1,495	 2

3.	 Miami (Fla.)	 8-1	 1,421	 4

4.	 LSU	 8-1	 1,363	 5

5.	 Penn State	 9-1	 1,251	 6

6.	 Virginia Tech	 8-1	 1,168	 8

7.	 Notre Dame	 7-2	 1,165	 7

8.	 Alabama	 9-1	 1,088	 3

9.	 Ohio State	 8-2	 1,068	 10

10.	 Oregon	 9-1	 1,001	 11

11.	 UCLA	 9-1	 890	 14

12.	 Auburn	 8-2	 872	 17

13.	 West Virginia	 8-1	 842	 15

14.	 Georgia	 7-2	 763	 9

15.	 TCU	 10-1	 672	 18

16.	 Fresno State	 8-1	 557	 20

17.	 Michigan	 7-3	 495	 22

18.	 Louisville	 7-2	 445	 23

19.	 Texas Tech	 8-2	 382	 13

20.	 Florida	 7-3	 322	 12

21.	 South Carolina	 7-3	 252	 --

22.	 Florida State	 7-3	 236	 16

23.	 Boston College	 7-3	 216	 25

24.	Wisconsin	 8-3	 147	 19

25.	 Texas El-Paso	 8-1	 142	 --

Others receiving votes: Iowa State 92; Minnesota 87; Oklahoma 50; Colorado 41; Clemson 29; 

California 17; Virginia 17; Iowa 15; Central Florida 4; Boise State 1; Georgia Tech 1.

[White Sox Josh]

Yeah I bet you wish Cooper was making an appearance this Saturday.

I guess you haven't seen Michigan's new and improved defense have you? It's the best defense against the pass in the Big Ten.

[THEWOOD]

I guess you haven't seen Michigan's new and improved defense have you?  It's the best defense against the pass in the Big Ten.

Guess you havent seen the OSU offense as of late have you? Oh and OSU has a pretty good defense too.

[THEWOOD]

I guess you haven't seen Michigan's new and improved defense have you?  It's the best defense against the pass in the Big Ten.

 

 

You also may want to recheck your stats.

 

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G

------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10 323 192 6 59.4 1986 6.1 7 198.6

2. Michigan............ 10 323 182 10 56.3 2027 6.3 10 202.7

3. Penn State.......... 10 356 199 11 55.9 2049 5.8 9 204.9

4. Indiana............. 10 274 152 6 55.5 2104 7.7 14 210.4

5. Minnesota........... 10 343 187 6 54.5 2343 6.8 12 234.3

6. Illinois............ 10 278 179 4 64.4 2348 8.4 25 234.8

7. Wisconsin........... 11 389 198 14 50.9 2708 7.0 21 246.2

8. Iowa................ 10 359 225 8 62.7 2487 6.9 15 248.7

9. Michigan State...... 10 358 219 8 61.2 2589 7.2 24 258.9

10.Northwestern........ 10 366 217 16 59.3 2764 7.6 15 276.4

11.Purdue.............. 10 366 219 11 59.8 2991 8.2 21 299.1

 

 

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G

---------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10 787 1986 646 2773 4.3 15 277.3

2. Penn State.......... 10 922 2049 730 2971 4.1 18 297.1

3. Michigan............ 10 1379 2027 681 3406 5.0 19 340.6

4. Iowa................ 10 1214 2487 753 3701 4.9 23 370.1

5. Minnesota........... 10 1528 2343 701 3871 5.5 29 387.1

6. Indiana............. 10 2068 2104 694 4172 6.0 37 417.2

7. Michigan State...... 10 1623 2589 716 4212 5.9 37 421.2

8. Wisconsin........... 11 2036 2708 808 4744 5.9 34 431.3

9. Purdue.............. 10 1433 2991 772 4424 5.7 33 442.4

10.Illinois............ 10 2218 2348 688 4566 6.6 49 456.6

11.Northwestern........ 10 2108 2764 777 4872 6.3 38 487.2

[Texsox]

Canes win 47-17...  Damn 1st game of the season vs FSU , they gave that one away and it will hurt them. Should be playing USC for National Title... best Offense vs best Defense.

 

Not to be a homer, but have you been watching Texas? If USC didn't have "the streak" the gap between #1 and #2 would be a lot closer. Many voters believe, and I'm inclined to agree, that until USC loses, they are #1. But that means they are looking at 2003 and 2004 in voting for 2005.

 

However, judging just on 2005, I believe more voters would place Texas in the top spot. So perhaps it would be Canes - Longhorns

[Texsox]

BTW, someone mentioning that NW will be avoided like the plague. NW travels well with well heeled alumni. Most Bowls would love a competitive NW team.

[Rex Hudler]

You also may want to recheck your stats.

 

PASS DEFENSE            G  Att  Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds  Avg TD Yds/G

------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10  323  192  6  59.4 1986  6.1  7 198.6

2. Michigan............ 10  323  182  10  56.3 2027  6.3 10 202.7

3. Penn State.......... 10  356  199  11  55.9 2049  5.8  9 204.9

4. Indiana............. 10  274  152  6  55.5 2104  7.7 14 210.4

5. Minnesota........... 10  343  187  6  54.5 2343  6.8 12 234.3

6. Illinois............ 10  278  179  4  64.4 2348  8.4 25 234.8

7. Wisconsin........... 11  389  198  14  50.9 2708  7.0 21 246.2

8. Iowa................ 10  359  225  8  62.7 2487  6.9 15 248.7

9. Michigan State...... 10  358  219  8  61.2 2589  7.2 24 258.9

10.Northwestern........ 10  366  217  16  59.3 2764  7.6 15 276.4

11.Purdue.............. 10  366  219  11  59.8 2991  8.2 21 299.1

TOTAL DEFENSE            G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G

---------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10  787 1986  646  2773  4.3  15 277.3

2. Penn State.......... 10  922 2049  730  2971  4.1  18 297.1

3. Michigan............ 10  1379 2027  681  3406  5.0  19 340.6

4. Iowa................ 10  1214 2487  753  3701  4.9  23 370.1

5. Minnesota........... 10  1528 2343  701  3871  5.5  29 387.1

6. Indiana............. 10  2068 2104  694  4172  6.0  37 417.2

7. Michigan State...... 10  1623 2589  716  4212  5.9  37 421.2

8. Wisconsin........... 11  2036 2708  808  4744  5.9  34 431.3

9. Purdue.............. 10  1433 2991  772  4424  5.7  33 442.4

10.Illinois............ 10  2218 2348  688  4566  6.6  49 456.6

11.Northwestern........ 10  2108 2764  777  4872  6.3  38 487.2

 

How about you two kids just chill until they play?? It should be a great game, but the puffing out of your chests, spouting stats is a bit much.

[THEWOOD]

How about you two kids just chill until they play??  It should be a great game, but the puffing out of your chests, spouting stats is a bit much.

 

Are we not allowed to discuss the game in this thread? I do believe it is the "Official College Football Thread". He made a comment on how UM had the best pass defense in the big ten, I had to correct him. Is this wrong? Does this not happen in any other thread when someone makes an incorrect statement? Are we in some way bothering you? This is what makes college football better than the NFL. OSU vs. UM is a rivalry, this is how fans of each team are supposed to react. I am sorry if you can not appreciate my heart and love for OSU.

 

GO BUCKS!!! SCREW BLUE!!!

[Rex Hudler]

Just the way you two do it bothers me, sorry. Michigan sucks! OSU blows!

 

Screw that, both are excellent teams and it should be a great game. Discussing the merits of a game without acting as if your team (meaning anyone's team) walks on water would be more appropriate, but that's just me.

 

I only quoted your post because it was the most recent. It was probably the best as far as pointing out facts of the exchange, so I'll give you that. I was venting more at the way you guys seem to go at each other.

 

I've said my piece, carry on.........

[Heads22]

Harris Poll

[White Sox Josh]

You also may want to recheck your stats.

 

PASS DEFENSE            G  Att  Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds  Avg TD Yds/G

------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10  323  192  6  59.4 1986  6.1  7 198.6

2. Michigan............ 10  323  182  10  56.3 2027  6.3 10 202.7

3. Penn State.......... 10  356  199  11  55.9 2049  5.8  9 204.9

4. Indiana............. 10  274  152  6  55.5 2104  7.7 14 210.4

5. Minnesota........... 10  343  187  6  54.5 2343  6.8 12 234.3

6. Illinois............ 10  278  179  4  64.4 2348  8.4 25 234.8

7. Wisconsin........... 11  389  198  14  50.9 2708  7.0 21 246.2

8. Iowa................ 10  359  225  8  62.7 2487  6.9 15 248.7

9. Michigan State...... 10  358  219  8  61.2 2589  7.2 24 258.9

10.Northwestern........ 10  366  217  16  59.3 2764  7.6 15 276.4

11.Purdue.............. 10  366  219  11  59.8 2991  8.2 21 299.1

TOTAL DEFENSE            G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G

---------------------------------------------------------------

1. Ohio State.......... 10  787 1986  646  2773  4.3  15 277.3

2. Penn State.......... 10  922 2049  730  2971  4.1  18 297.1

3. Michigan............ 10  1379 2027  681  3406  5.0  19 340.6

4. Iowa................ 10  1214 2487  753  3701  4.9  23 370.1

5. Minnesota........... 10  1528 2343  701  3871  5.5  29 387.1

6. Indiana............. 10  2068 2104  694  4172  6.0  37 417.2

7. Michigan State...... 10  1623 2589  716  4212  5.9  37 421.2

8. Wisconsin........... 11  2036 2708  808  4744  5.9  34 431.3

9. Purdue.............. 10  1433 2991  772  4424  5.7  33 442.4

10.Illinois............ 10  2218 2348  688  4566  6.6  49 456.6

11.Northwestern........ 10  2108 2764  777  4872  6.3  38 487.2

yes and Michigan is playing without their 2 best Defensive Players right now. Also last time i looked Michigan was still leading the Big Ten in Pass Defense.